do you think the moon landing was fake no we’re picking up some deception here that’s hilarious it’s hilarious do you think the mo landing is fake no not till now not until Stephanie put that in me we’ve been talking about this for over a year so you you that’s for sure I this the Emerald City I said one day we’re going to do the Vanity Fair lie detector test together and I said we needed to finish the film first Ariana Cynthia we’ve brought you here today to take a lie detector test one of you will be hooked up to the
machine while the other will ask the questions and then you’ll switch who wants to be in the hot seat first oh that was quick okay go ahead okay why not sure I feel like why not AR’s ready the eyes closing can it feel my general anxiety or it can that’s what it’s all about cool oh me Ariana yeah I’m going to ask you a few questions to calibrate the lie detector is your full name Ariana Grande Bera yes were you born on June the 26th yes are you nervous absolutely but I’m beaming like in the best way Ariana you have seven albums and two
Grammys would you say you have a perfect work ethic I would say I’m a very hard worker I wouldn’t say there’s such thing as perfect work ethic at all no I think I’m a workaholic so I wouldn’t say perfect I think I have like a maybe an unhealthy relationship to it that thing’s probably scribbling X’s and O’s over there truthful wow the next question here is have you ever called yourself a workaholic which is oh yes moments ago do you ever take vacations I have taken vacations in my life truthful I would like to go on one
again you are a huge fan of Disney World yes would you ever go a Disney cruise to relax no I think there’s a line that we draw I know that was the truth also just I think maybe I’m not a cruise person in general mm- Ariana you have a very dedicated fan base would you say you love your fans very much yes truthful do you love them all the time I love them always but I think sometimes they can hurt my feelings and sometimes I don’t like them but I love them always does that make sense yes she’s being truthful girl I
love you that was such a sweet answer I love you so much it’s a hard relationship I think that sort of like weirdly parasocial but it to it feels very real to me so sometimes it’s hard but I love them very much have you ever dm’d a fan just to chat yeah oh yeah all the time yeah what about befriended aand yes it’s happened okay three times very close specific very close like seven to 12 years of friendship in at this point your fans are called arianators did you come up with that name no do you like it no the machine is picking up some
deception I don’t like it I mean I’ve accepted it yeah but would I pick that of course not that’s insane she is being truthful thank you the thing is you know how I can tell when she’s telling the truth because she gets the look of concern on her face you know how people have resting face I have resting constant fret face that’s what my mom says you’re very interested in astrology do you ever make rash judgments based on people’s signs no I try not to because I think within each sign there are many different kinds of each truthful
truthful did you look up if we were compati before we started working together no that was a lie it was a lie I think I looked up your sign but I didn’t look up compatibility because I have Capricorn friends I know the compatibility well Stephanie Stephanie inconclusive but I definitely looked up your sign yeah I don’t know if I looked up compatibility because I know Capricorns can you tell that I’m nervous The Machine’s giving an indication of some nervousness well yeah I need a glass of wine this is crazy please this is insane
before we finish this isn’t going where I thought it would go but I like it what else is it you are famously known for doing celebrity impersonations has anyone ever confronted you about an impersonation as in like they didn’t like it oo no I don’t think so no that would be terrible truthful have you ever confronted anyone who’s impersonated you no have you ever wanted to yes in a fun way yeah you’re a huge fan of drag race would you want to see this person perform as you absolutely any time any place I’m a massive gotmic Stan
which song I don’t know gotmic devours everything The Boy Is Mine or like something emotional be honest was being a guest judge on drag race harder than the voice H I wouldn’t say one was harder than the other just different yep truthful you you’ve released almost a dozen perfume lines do you exclusively wear your own perfume I’d say like 99.
9% of the time yes would you say it’s the best per you’ve ever used I have my favorites but yeah I would say that M truthful Arana who is the best smelling celebrity you’ve ever met you us that’s the fun thing we both waft down the hall so we can tell when one is coming to set no one even has to check or ask it’s not yourself and not me so you I’ve never met anyone else okay we did where this is it I know she’s she’s being truthful that’s it that’s it in his lie detector test Troy saan said that you were one of his favorite collaborators of all time you’ve
collaborated with so many Legends do you think you could choose your favorite was it this person Mariah is the queen of my life I think I have to say you why did I know you were going to say that because it’s like this is a very unique thing that we got to do and singing face to face together and hearing your voice and my ears my raw ears and your raw voice is like the best thing that’s ever happened to me in my life I mean obviously Mariah but obviously you can’t we have a tie she’s telling the truth I know you
will make me cry it’s the truth is there anyone you haven’t yet collaborated with that you want to is it this person oh my goodness you can we have well we have a we have secretly collaborated we sang every song in the Great American song book together every day you once said you’re not easily embarrassed do you still stand by that I think I meant when I said that I was talking about when I was young a young girl like when I was young I used to not be very embarrass possible because I was just like you know I think it was when I
was younger that I meant have you ever watched an old interview of yours and cringe oh absolutely and I’ll do that with this one I’m sure absolutely what about your past performances cursed cursed yeah leave it where why does everything have to be there forever you know but like in a loving way like I embrace I celebrate what once was but wow ho you know what emotion comes up when you see this oh my goodness we look like babies where are we I have no idea I actually think it’s very sweet I had a really hard time in
the beginning with my red hair and um I think I felt very pretty oh this day okay yes this was before I learned that I should have straight eyebrows and not Satan’s Arch um so this was before that and this was uh two noses ago for Frankie so it’s beautiful and my brother was there for support for us to go on a red carpet together when we had no idea what it even was or what anything was but it’s emotional to see you have an album called Dangerous woman can I ask you some rapid fire dangerous question holy yeah do you think the moon
landing was fake Jesus Christ what do you take me for no no inconclusive this what is saying that’s hilarious it’s hilarious do you think that we Landing his F no not till now not until he put that in me but you know we’ve been there the machine is showing deception you definitely that is hilarious do you think the Earth is actually flat no she may be telling the truth what in the do you think I am do you want to try asking her again okay do you think the Earth is actually flat no the Earth is round I think you were still thinking
about the moon landing when you asked this yeah I’m thinking about a lot of things is the Illuminati real I don’t know she is being truthful do you believe in aliens yes what about ghosts yes you sing popular in our film did you ever get any work done to make yourself feel more popular to my face to physical appearance I’m going to ask all the questions oh thank goodness did you get your nose done no did you get a boob job no did you get a face no not yet I’m open truthful wait and go back to the other one nose lift she’s telling the
truth there we go this is the best thing of my life take that you YouTube people ready yes did you get a fox Eye Lift no but I I discovered it through people who thought I did and I said thank you yeah she’s telling the truth there we go what about a chin implant how do they do that no I’ve had fillers in various places and Botox but but I stopped like 4 years ago this we know yeah and that is the extent but also like in full support of all people who do these things work whatever makes women men non-gender conforming people feel
beautiful should be allowed why do we care anyway what’s next I want to keep going keep bringing more Ari have you gone to BBL get the I can’t even the question out of here yes she’s being deceptive of course yes would you I should go back okay more no no that wouldn’t work for me I don’t think that’s my thing no I and I’m okay with that you know Ariana are you a good witch or a bad witch ooh complicated question kind of the story of the film I think there’s no such thing as a good witch or a bad witch I think we’re all
multi-dimensional beautiful complex beings that have goodness and wickedness within them mhm final question did you lie at any point during this lie detector test and we didn’t catch you no she’s telling the truth there you go this was the best day of my life I wanted this for so long are you ready for this I don’t know I mean technically this goes with my outfit I will say Cynthia yes I’m going to ask ask you a few questions to get a baseline please answer honestly is your name Cynthia arivo yes but I have many other names in
between what are they Cynthia chuar stunning perpetu also cuz that’s my confirmation confirmation yes are you from London England yes are you ready to take the lie detector test I have no idea we ready the machine has been calibrated okay let’s get started okay you won an Emmy a Grammy and a Tony for your performance in Broadways The Color Purple are you aware that you are one award away from an egot yes do you know where all of your awards are right now yes where are they they’re in my office on my bookshelf be honest is there such a
thing as a fun award show yes truly she’s telling the truth the tonies are usually my favorite it feels like I get to like meet up with all friends I haven’t seen for a long time in theaters where I started so that’s always really fun to be at yeah is hosting an awards show the worst possible gig no I really want to do it oh you do yes that was my next question oh yeah fabulous well at some point let’s do it was that the truth truthful is Defying Gravity the hardest song you’ve ever had to sing no what is I’m here vocally or
emotionally but both I’m going to be the Capricorn that’s going to be very very controlled freaky and be like did I tell I tell am I saying yeah having Stephanie there is very reassuring it’s nice yeah I think I may have delivered most of the thing to um okay you said in 2021 in an interview that this person mhm gave you the best advice yes which is that you’re allowed to say no mhm would you ever say no to her I’m not sure nine times out of 10 I’m probably going say yes even if the advice is you should say no I would go yes what if she
asked you to rob a bank I would probably say yes fine am I telling the truth truthful what’s up let’s go would you ask me to be your accomplice no why because I think you would freak out why would I freak out I love a mission you do love a mission in the car I could come in the car you know what I’m going to take that back I’m going take it CU I you’re down I know that you’re down I’m down as you are I might not do much that’s actually for real but I’ll be there for you you will okay fine true okay I’ll be there yeah let’s go you
have performed many live concerts in your career have you ever forgotten lyrics while on stage absolutely what song I think I forgot lyrics and don’t you don’t r on my parade that was interesting I don’t think it matters when you sound like that I don’t know if it’s you know what I mean yeah thank you have you ever oh come on this is we know the answer to this have you ever considered phoning it in and lip syncing never yeah no it really upsets me I’m really and I don’t actually think I’m good at it I can’t convey what I want to convey if I’m lip
syncing of course not and I think it’s a real skill I just don’t think I have it she’s telling the truth that is a silly question a silly moving on do you still get nervous before a show yes have you o has any actor or singer left you Star Struck Kendrick Lamar he left me Star Struck I thought he was exquisite she’s being truthful we’ve been traveling a lot together recently would you consider yourself a good traveler yes do you have any bizarre travel superstitions not superstitions I have like things that I like to do before I
travel and things that I like to take with me when I’m traveling but no superstitions when we get to our hotel rooms do you have any weird habits I don’t think it’s a weird habit I unpack and move in yes even if it’s for a day yeah I’m moving in do you clean the whole room before you touch anything no will you stay on the 13th floor what’s the 13th floor I don’t know I’m staying on the 13th floor if the room is good on the 13th floor I’m staying on the 13th floor I’m dying we’re good yeah Cynthia is it true you once ran a half marathon
and then performed in two Broadway shows the same night yes are you sure you’re human no truthful do you ever have extremely lazy days after days like that not really really what is the longest you’ve binge watched something in a day the longest mhm as an hours yeah like in a day I mean I’ve had I’ve watched something for a whole day but sometimes it’s just like on in the background I get I have like a couple of hours where I’m like alert and paying attention but I’ve watched like a series in a in a day what series oh
Gossip Girl absolutely old school version yes yeah you recently celebrated the 120th anniversary of the Royal Academy of dramatic arts with this person yes were you nervous to meet him no did you curtsy yes did you practice your curtsy no in conclusive did I well you know why is because I didn’t practice but they kept talking about it so they made us do a curtsy so they could see it but I knew how to curtsy because I’ve done it a thousand times before I curtsy during my shows that’s how I bow did you watch back your curtsy
to make sure you did it correctly no is there even a video of the curtsy have you ever misspoke at a high stakes event like that I don’t think so I can’t see it no she’s telling the truth okay Cynthia you are a Capricorn and like to follow the world of astrology yes yes occasionally would you say you exhibit a lot of Capricorn traits absolutely so you consider yourself ambitious yes a Trailblazer yes mischievous yes would you say you are a woman who demands re pect you know what yeah do you know what my astrology chart is I didn’t research
it by heart come on Pisces yes I know I’m kidding I’m kidding I’m joking I should have researched it I really wanted to too we have each other on co-star yes but but I don’t know what anything says but I wanted to research it I wanted to look for it see this is the Capricorn coming through now I’m Capricorn rising that I didn’t know actually that’s good yeah can we do some rapid fire questions yes do you think the moon landing was fake no I don’t she’s telling the truth what was I then I don’t think it was fake either
I think that video you don’t think that video is a little like you know no I’ve never ever questioned it because so many people have been to the but that’s what I’m saying but then why aren’t there more videos like that I don’t know but I don’t think it’s fake though I don’t think it is either I why Stephanie me up like that she really got me oh God the whole world is going to think that I think that no and I’m from Florida you know what I mean no this is a nightmare this is a nightmare L half of the world thinks that it didn’t happen some of the
but I think it happened you’re missing the point I know what happened it’s okay let me help Ariana Grande believes that the moon landing is real of course I do it happened this is just a machine thing okay she believes what I believe all right do you think the Earth is actually flat the Earth is no is the Illuminati real I think they are do you know no I don’t know anyone in there does she know she’s telling the truth and don’t you even think that that’s because I’m a part of it cuz I know some of you are going to
do that nonsense okay I wish we had more time yes here with Stephanie but also on Earth on yeah anyway um do you believe in aliens yes do you believe in ghosts yes are you a good witch or a bad witch I think I’m a combination of both cuz that’s what makes us human yep I think that’s what makes us interesting but I think I’m more good than bad like I think you’re more good than bad we love you I love you that made me emotional don’t know why cuz you know we see it in each other we see the truth right Steph correct okay final question did you lie
at any point during this lie detector test and we didn’t catch you no she’s telling the truth great work l y yay yay I think we dident great
QQ4 Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The friendship began on a live television program in November of 1986 in the 11 seconds after Bob Dylan called Keith Richards music derivative on camera. Keith Richard’s response to that assessment, one sentence said without anger, without performance, with the specific directness of a man who has nothing to prove and knows it made Bob Dylan laugh.
Then made Bob Dylan go quiet. then made Bob Dylan say two words that people who know Bob Dylan say he almost never said to anyone. This is the story of those 11 seconds and the 40 years that followed them. The program was a live music interview special broadcast on an American network on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The format was simple.
Two musicians, a host, an hour of conversation about music and the state of it. The producers had assembled the pairing of Bob Dylan and Keith Richards with the specific calculation of television producers who understand that two people with equally strong and potentially incompatible views about what music is and what it should do will produce better television than two people who agree about everything.
The calculation was correct, though not in the way the producers had anticipated. Bob Dylan was 45 years old in November of 1986. Bob Dylan had released Empire Burlesque the previous year and had been on the road for most of the intervening period as part of the True Confessions tour with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
Bob Dylan was in November of 1986 in one of the most prolific and restless phases of a career that had consisted almost entirely of prolific and restless phases. A career that had moved through folk, rock, country, gospel, and back again, that had been declared finished at least six times by the music press, and at each time continued with the serene indifference of a river to the opinions of people standing on its banks.
Bob Dylan had been redefining what music could be. Since 1962, Bob Dylan had invented and reinvented himself so many times that reinvention had become his defining characteristic, not in the superficial sense of a performer changing costumes, but in the deeper sense of a musician who had never allowed his work to settle into a form that could be anticipated or categorized from the outside.
Bob Dylan understood influence and originality and the relationship between them better than almost anyone alive in 1986. Bob Dylan had spent 24 years thinking carefully and specifically about where music came from and where music was going and what it meant that those two things were always in constant conversation with each other.
Keith Richards was 42 years old in November of 1986. Keith Richards had been playing guitar professionally since 1962. Keith Richards had built a career on a foundation of American blues and rhythm and blues. A foundation that Keith Richards had studied with the systematic devotion of someone who understood that the tradition he was building on was not incidental to the music he was making, but essential to it.
that you could not understand what Keith Richards did without understanding where Keith Richards had come from and what Keith Richards had been listening to since he was a teenager in Dartford with American Import Records and a secondhand guitar and no teacher except the recordings themselves. Keith Richards had never pretended otherwise. Keith Richards had in fact spent considerable energy across his career making the lineage explicit, naming the artists, citing the recordings, insisting on the acknowledgement of influence that the mainstream music
industry had a long history of suppressing or ignoring or crediting to the wrong people. If anything, Keith Richards was more transparent about his sources than most musicians of his generation. Keith Richards had always said openly that the Rolling Stones came directly from the blues, that Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson and the specific tradition of the Mississippi Delta were not background influences, but foundational ones.
The music Keith Richards made was in direct and sustained conversation with that tradition, something Keith Richards considered not a limitation, but a responsibility and a form of respect. The interview had been running for 8 minutes when the host asked Bob Dylan about the current state of rock and roll.
Bob Dylan answered with the density and the indirection that characterized Bob Dylan’s responses to direct questions, turning the question over, approaching it from an unexpected angle, finding his way to what he actually thought through a series of observations that moved like a river rather than a road. Bob Dylan was not a straightforward interview subject.
Bob Dylan had been asked about rock and roll in hundreds of interviews across 24 years and had developed the habit of treating the question as an invitation to think out loud rather than a request for a prepared position. The producer Gerald Sherman said afterward that in the first 8 minutes of the interview, he had been slightly anxious, not because anything was going wrong, but because nothing was going anywhere in particular yet.
The interview had the feeling of two conversations happening simultaneously. Bob Dylan’s internal one and the external one visible to the cameras. And Gerald Sherman was not certain in those first eight minutes that the two conversations would converge into something. Bob Dylan talked about influence. Bob Dylan talked about originality.
Bob Dylan talked about the difference between music that absorbed a tradition and transformed it and music that absorbed a tradition and reproduced it. And then Bob Dylan made his assessment. And then Bob Dylan said with the precision of a man making a musical assessment rather than a personal judgment that the Rolling Stones work, and Bob Dylan was specific, naming Keith Richards as the guitarist whose approach he was discussing was derivative in a way that Bob Dylan found limiting.
Bob Dylan said it without hostility. Bob Dylan said it as a technical observation about the relationship between source material and the work that came from it. Bob Dylan said that Keith Richards played the blues the way the blues had already been played, rather than using the blues as a starting point for something that had not yet been played.
Keith Richards had been listening to this with the specific attention Keith Richards gave to things being said about music by people who knew music. Keith Richards did not interrupt. Keith Richards did not shift in his chair or display any of the visible signals of a person preparing a defensive response. Keith Richards listened to Bob Dylan’s complete observation all the way to its conclusion without interrupting and without displaying any visible signal of preparing a response.
Then Keith Richards said one sentence. The sentence was not a rebuttal. The sentence did not defend Keith Richards music or argue for its originality or challenge Bob Dylan’s characterization of what the blues meant in the context of rock and roll. The sentence was something else entirely, something that required a specific kind of confidence to say.
The confidence of a person who has spent long enough thinking about the same things as the person they are talking to that they can locate the exact point where their thinking diverges and say something useful about that point rather than simply defending their own position. The sentence acknowledged everything Bob Dylan had said, the assessment, the distinction Bob Dylan was drawing, the specific musical concern underlying the observation, and then turned it 90°.
Keith Richards took Bob Dylan’s own framework, the one Bob Dylan had used to analyze Keith Richards relationship to the blues tradition, and applied it back to Bob Dylan’s work with the same precision Bob Dylan had used to apply it to Keith Richards. Spare aimed. The sentence asked Bob Dylan something about Bob Dylan’s own music, about the relationship between Bob Dylan’s sources and Bob Dylan’s output that Bob Dylan had not been asked on television before.
The sentence did not attack. The sentence illuminated. Bob Dylan laughed. The laugh was not the polite laugh of someone responding to a joke. The laugh was the involuntary laugh of someone who has been genuinely surprised. The specific kind of surprise that a person of exceptional intelligence experiences when someone else’s intelligence exceeds their expectations.
Bob Dylan laughed for 4 seconds. Then Bob Dylan stopped laughing. Then Bob Dylan was quiet for 3 seconds in the way that Bob Dylan was quiet when Bob Dylan was thinking rather than performing thought. Then Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” The producer in the booth, a man named Gerald Sherman, who had been working in television for 14 years, said afterward that in 14 years of live television production, he had never heard Bob Dylan say those two words in a public forum.
Gerald Sherman said he had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions and had observed Bob Dylan in numerous other contexts and that you’re right was not a phrase that Bob Dylan deployed easily or often because Bob Dylan had spent 24 years being right about music in ways that other people eventually caught up with. And the experience of being right ahead of everyone else does not generally produce a man who says you’re right readily when someone else makes a point.
The host of the program, a journalist named Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said afterward that the 11 seconds between Bob Dylan’s assessment and Bob Dylan saying, “You’re right,” were the most extraordinary 11 seconds of television she had been present for. Patricia Wells said that what she witnessed in those 11 seconds was not a debate or a confrontation or a celebrity exchange of competing opinions.
Patricia Wells said what she witnessed was one musician recognizing another musician as an equal, which was in the specific context of Bob Dylan in 1986, not something that happened in public very often. The interview continued for another 42 minutes after those 11 seconds. The conversation between Bob Dylan and Keith Richards in the remaining 42 minutes was described by everyone who watched it as fundamentally different from the first 8 minutes.
The host, Patricia Wells, who had been conducting music interviews for 12 years and understood the difference between the performance of conversation and actual conversation, said that at approximately the 9-minute mark, something shifted in the studio. That the formal interview, architecture dissolved, and what replaced it was something less structured and more genuine.
Bob Dylan and Keith Richards talked about influence and originality and the blues and what it meant to build on a tradition without being consumed by it. They talked about specific recordings and specific musicians with the specificity of two people who had spent their entire adult lives thinking about these things and rarely found another person who had thought about them with equivalent care.
They talked about where music came from and where music was going and whether those two questions were actually one question or two. Patricia Wells said afterward that she had asked approximately four questions in the remaining 42 minutes because Bob Dylan and Keith Richards did not require questions. They required only a room and a camera and the shared understanding that what they were saying together was worth recording carefully.
She said it was the best interview she had ever conducted and that she had conducted the smallest part of it. After the program, Bob Dylan and Keith Richards were in the corridor outside the studio when the host Patricia Wells passed them. Patricia Wells said she did not stop because she did not want to interrupt.
She observed them for approximately 30 seconds from a distance. She said they were talking with the ease of people who had known each other for years rather than people who had met for the first time 2 hours earlier. She said that something had shifted between them during the broadcast that the broadcast had made permanent rather than temporary.
She continued down the corridor and did not look back. She said in her account of that evening that she had decided in that moment not to interrupt the conversation because some conversations are more valuable than any question a journalist might ask and that the conversation she had observed for 30 seconds in the corridor outside the studio was one of them.
She had been a music journalist for 12 years. She recognized the difference. Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have maintained their friendship across four decades. They have appeared together at various events, most significantly at the concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995, where people who were present described them as inseparable for most of the evening, occupying the same corner of the backstage area and talking with the concentrated attention of people who only have a limited amount of time together and intend to use it
well. Bob Dylan has spoken about Keith Richards in interviews with the specific thoughtful care that Bob Dylan reserves for musicians whose work Bob Dylan considers genuinely important rather than merely culturally prominent. Keith Richards has spoken about Bob Dylan in similar terms with the specific respect of someone who recognizes in another person a commitment to music that goes deeper than career.
Neither Bob Dylan nor Keith Richards has made a public statement specifically about how the friendship began or about the November 1986 interview. Bob Dylan has not mentioned the 11 seconds. Keith Richards has not mentioned the sentence. The interview exists in the archive. The 11 seconds are there. The laugh is there. The two words are there.
What is also there for anyone who watches the interview from its beginning and pays attention to the shift that happens at the 9-minute mark is the specific moment when two people who thought they were appearing on a television program discovered they were actually talking to each other. What Keith Richards said in that one sentence has never been officially reported.
The people who were in the studio that evening, Gerald Sherman, Patricia Wells, the floor crew, the two camera operators, the makeup artist who was watching from the side of the set, have described the sentence in consistent terms. They have described its effect. They have described Bob Dylan’s laugh and Bob Dylan’s silence and Bob Dylan’s two words.
They have not repeated the sentence itself in the specific understanding that the sentence was said between two musicians on a television program and that its power resided in the specific context of that exchange and would not survive removal from it intact. What can be said is this. Keith Richards said something to Bob Dylan about Bob Dylan’s music that used Bob Dylan’s own observation about Keith Richards as its starting point and arrived somewhere that Bob Dylan had not anticipated.
Keith Richards turned Bob Dylan’s assessment 90° and showed Bob Dylan something about the music they had both spent their lives making that Bob Dylan recognized immediately as true. And Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” Two words said by Bob Dylan in public on live television in 1986 to Keith Richards in response to a single sentence Keith Richards had said about music.
Two words that Gerald Sherman, who had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions, said he had never heard Bob Dylan say in a public forum. Two words that Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said were the most significant two words she had heard in those 12 years. Not because of their content, but because of who said them and what it cost to say them and what it meant that Keith Richards had produced them in 11 seconds from a conversation that began with Bob Dylan calling Keith Richards’s music derivative. And Keith Richards and
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