These Pastors Were Sent To Jail After What They Did – Hw

have you ever wondered what happened to the pastor who spread insecticide into his members eyes well here are 20 top African pastors who were arrested and their criminal offenses number 20 shepher bushiri remember the Malawi Pastor who went viral for his supposed walk on air and the applaudable Miracle spiritual Zender picture in quot to a tablet what about when he was called out by some of his members for staging some of his Deliverance sessions claim to heal HIV cancer and the rest remember that Prophet well popular as shepher

bushiri or Prophet bushiri or even better major one bushiri has been listed countlessly as one of the fake prophets ruling in a mega South African church but things seem to get a little salty for major one when he may have gone too far and eventually the law caught up to him in 2020 bushiri and his wife Mary alongside two others fac numerous charges of money laundering and fraud in South Africa through the said man of God’s Ministry the church enlightened Christian Gathering the bishir were accused of stealing the sum of $6.6

million true theft and other illegal procedures for example smuggling or stolen cars from South Africa to Malawi and more when bushiri heard about the court charges issued by interpole and the man haunt for him the man of God was believed to have fled South Africa back to his homeland Malawi later on after the couple were recovered they somehow had managed to convince the court that they had left because of the numerous death threats they had been receiving and definitely not to evade the arrest and trial the trial was then held on the

31st of May of the same year 2020 to June 18th serving the couple with your final rulings number 19 Paul McKenzie tagged by multiple news forums as a Kenyan cult leader Pastor Paul Mackenzie of the Good News International Church this time was finally apprehended ended after a series of alarming supposed Miracles across Africa Mckenzie was arrested in April 2023 and was charged with terrorism related crimes manslaughter and torture as well as producing and distributing films without a license the least of his very many

outrageous crimes when a discovery of over 400 bodies were found in shakah hola a remote forest in the west side of malindi the self acclaimed Pastor was fingered and then held responsible for their debts the grave site was set to hold over 420 bodies including children who were said to have shown signs of Salvation and assaults from their autopsies their death set to followed when McKenzie had encouraged members of his church to allegedly move there that is shakah hola and prepare for the end of the world while they fasted an

instruction he had given to them so they could get into heaven the mass murderer was also arrested alongside 95 others who were seen at the grave site investigators desperate to serve Justice asked for an extended period of McKenzie in custody while they furthered their research the controversial preacher continued to plead not guilty and denied ever inciting the member starvation having defended that he had closed his church in 2019 Paul nathi McKenzie appeared in the courtroom in the Indian Ocean Port City of Mombasa in 2023 and

faed the court hearings for the horrific Saga cult leader Paul McKenzie has pleaded not guilty to manth slaughter in the case where he’s charged with indoctrinating up to 400 of his followers to stop themselves to death Mackenzie appeared in court in the castal city of momes alongside 94 other suspects after he was arrested last April after 429 bodies including children were dag up from a gravite in shakah K County number 18 Pastor Timothy U neran Pastor Timothy omotu of Jesus Dominion International which is based in

dban South Africa has been in jail and awaiting trial since 2017 for criminal actions of 32 charges of rape human trafficking and rocketeering the Nigerian Pastor is theer of the 24-hour satellite television agent of days broadcasting network which features earrings on his sermons and Miracle sessions amoto was accused of rape of as young as 14year olds to several of other female members of his church 32 charges which are initially 63 but when a few decided to drop the charges or lost interest it was officiated at 32 charges

of rape he and two of his female assistants were arrested in April 2017 the assistants alleged accomplices the trafficking of people BYU were also said to have been commed by a selection of his employees members of the church or just random people recruiting them under the pretext of spiritual travels and an improvement in the quality of their lives they were then CED off in planes and to hotel rooms instructing them to turn off their cell phones and not contact anyone he was then alleged to select from complainants among them and

invited them into his private bedroom where he would allegedly assault them the 66-year-old was then placed in jail and denied baill the case adjourned for several months and for 6 years he was also said to have had his last Hearing in July [Applause] 2024 number 17 pastor Ezekiel Odo when this pastor was arrested he had made a statement of some kind by being escorted away while the Bible was held firmly in his hand confirmed to be an associate with the Kenyan cult leader Paul m Kenzie the Kenyan pastor of New Life

prayer Center and church pastor Ezekiel Odo is yet another African Pastor who was arrested in 2023 his church was shut down almost immediately after he was charged with being in cahoots with McKenzie he had later confessed and admitted that there had been about 15 people who had passed away while within the premises of his church the controversial tele evangelist is another of the prominent prophets in Kenya who was under the investigation of the death of the over 400 members who were found in the forest closed to the new life

prayer Center his church the pastor was also discovered to own a funeral home and a private morg warned that a few of the bodies transported there were not accountable for Ezekiel was also mentioned to face charges concerning the mass genocide the cling man was belied to have finally chosen to face the music or have grown a conscience when having set the bill for his release he had decided to surrender to the police number 16 Pastor Don’t Be Afraid don’t be afraid and many times when you come from graves me I eat so

Don’t Be Afraid what the pastor who made his followers eat life snakes and clothes including shirts bras and underwear was arrested in 2015 for a supposed case of Cruelty against animals pastor penel mongoni had with evidence chosen to test the fate of his congregants by dropping light snakes into their mouths and claimed that if they believed it actually tasted like chocolate the caption evidence in form of the picture read those with small Faith eat only vegetables but those with great faith eat anything during the

service the man of God commanded a snake to turn to chocolate and it obeyed people ate it and enjoyed it to God be the glory Muni was then arrested when the society for Prevention of Cruelty against animals filed a case against them surprisingly that was the only charge made against Muni even though a long time ago he had asked his members to strip off their clothes and eat it on the basis that Adam and Eve were undressed and were not ashamed he had also told his members to eat grass and more the case against the founder of the

end times disciples Ministries was believed to have been dropped for some reason later on the case was said to have been withdrawn due to insufficient evidence which is just as buffin as you may have thought next is number 15 Pastor Victor Kari Here Comes Pastor Victor Kari who was discovered for his fraudulence miracles they J his church salvation healing Ministries in Nairobi if you recall an incident that disguised the chemical as blood in water which was masterminded by Kari that he must have wondered where he has been and what has

been happening to him all these years kangari has also had to deal with a number of controversies about him ranging from the strange gifts given to him by female admirers from Tik Tok to his sermons about ending courtships with educated and iPhone using women but this particular time it goes a little more further than his harmless ordal the self-proclaimed Prophet was once again trusted into the Limelight when he was linked to an alleged human sacrifice and a baby theft Syndicate in Nairobi a woman known as Mercy makone nma also

identified as joy as she was accused of stealing a baby and also a 7-year-old girl from her home under the supposed instruction of Kari nimma had successfully executed her plan and escaped with the child to a hideout and left behind a handbag at the mother’s house which had a note its content with four mobile numbers and read call call these numbers to get what you want Pastor kanari call and get your child blood we belong in Illuminati and we take blood after reporting the matter nimma was successfully traced and

arrested in April 2018 and sentenced to 5 years in prison after pleading guilty she also claimed that Pastor Keri had masterminded the theft he was later arrested and upon further investigations he was released number 14 Pastor F Daniels nigeran Pastor F Daniels popular SOS based Pastor Bishop F Daniels was centered to life imprisonment for rape and sexual assault against the worshipper the founder of the Iran Christian Ministry was arrested and the persecution was established mainly by a 19-year-old church member and a

23-year-old Pastor assistant F denied all accusations of course and stated that the women who had testified against him had purposefully conspired to bring him down he also denied tampering with evidence in form of deleting WhatsApp messages between him and one of the four women the popular Legos based Pastor Bishop Daniels was still being investigated even ad missed his plead of not being guilty still denying all charges and refusing to admit to his criminal offenses the trial judge ran oi found the cleric guilty on all accounts

in 2020 he was sentenced to life imprisonment on the first account on January 26 2023 after his arraignment and then 3 years in prison on the third account of sexual assault he was found guilty of rape against one of the complainants and um sexual assault against another complainant the court can is not F Christmas it cannot dash out judgment number 13 Pastor muru peka France Ming popular as pastor pfp or Prophet umoro is a South African televangelist and the leader of the incredible happenings Ministry based in

Johannesburg South Africa Prophet umoro is famous for most of his controversial Miracles and sessions some of these strange actions include praying for the underwear of his church members the female ones of course selling of Miracle ATM cards and also his claims of killing the devil ascending into heaven with unbelievable reports that Jesus was actually dating a zosa woman only recently and less than 2 months ago the pastor was arrested alongside his bodyguard Clement baloi and were charged on 12 accounts one of them including

threatening some teachers at Machu primary school with only two pangas a special African blade resembling a machette another charge presented him with kidnapping and in possession of a dangerous weapon firing a rifle into the air in front of the primary school and with an unlicensed firearm at that as well as assault among others it was also mentioned that luru had been arrested nine times before his current arrest in August 2024 he was later granted bill after 40 days in prison set at 3,000 South African Brands which would be

calculated to be as close as 300,000 in naira or almost mockingly many onliners were taken a back when he couldn’t meet Bill but somehow he was finally able to pay the bill after Gathering the amount only a few days out of prison umoru has held his first church service for his highly anticipating members number 12 Theo o EO another 2024 arrest featured the Nigerian pastor of the faith and The Rock Ministry International Church theophilos popular as Theo o e or Apostle Professor the O EB and is famous in banway state he was accused of

swindling his followers and others the sum of 1.3 billiona Eon had been detained and released on bail in 2023 last year but this news is basically news to the public because he has surprisingly dismissed them as rumors and false information spread by bloggers and never commented more on the allegations against them digging into the criminal act of the Nigeria’s economic and financial crimes commission AKA efcc alleged ioni had asked his members and other victims to pay the sum of $1,300 as fee to access a$2 billion

Grant from a us-based Ford Foundation a typical frauder move however it was later found out that the foundation itself never offered such a grant neither had he made any Arrangement or relationship of business with a boy or his church the stolen funds were said to have allowed a bon to purchase five properties the nigeran pastor now tagged as a scammer has been arrested as of February 2024 and will be charged on account of defrauding his members number 11 Angel obinim ghanian born Pastor Daniel obinim popularly known as Angel

obinim is a minister of the international Gods way church located in Ghana and has declared himself to be an angel of God hence the name sparking controversies Angel has told his church severally that he could transform into different animals alongside his very violent Deliverance sessions which would showcase him trampling or tring on the sick in the process of healing them he’s also that Pastor who evidently tries to fly back to Heaven as the angel that he is but unfortunately got held back by his members set that aside one of the

episodes that got the man of God coughed by the ghanian police services domestic violence and victim support unit was when he had mercilessly flogged two teenagers on the pull pit in front of the congregation the two were accused of fornicating which led to the female getting pregnant and according to the pastor they were contemplating abortion the video went viral on the internet and raised a lot of questions and generally angered the public this particular act invited the eyes of the minister of gender children and social protection

Nana o lethor which led to his arrest he has also been arrested countless other times like when he was taken to violence and beaten up a studio manager for supposedly airing his sex scandal on the FM radio station another time was on the basis of Fraud and mour of forgery and false publication most of his cases however have been said to have vanished Into Thin Air and if you’re still watching drop a for this video which we definitely appreciate and on to the next number 10 Pastor Ishmael chorong Zimbabwe Prophet Ishmael was arrested by

the Zimbabwean police for allegedly holding 251 children on his property while engaging them in underage labor exploiting them and assault there were also some unregistered graeves believed to be of infant to be found on his property when taken to court the founder of the Apostolic Church also known as white government church was said to have kept 251 miners on his farm run by him and 246 of the children had no birth certificates the children also did not attend any educational institution neither listen to what God was

saying had supported Ishmael and explained that God forbids children to go to school in 2015 Ishmael was arrested for leading an attack on police officers and another religious group Who challenged his leadership which was set to condone abuse the prophet was known to have educated his members on the belief in resisting modern medicine practicing open air worship and underaged marriage the religious sex leader was arrested in 2024 and has been denied bail he has remained on the custody of the police while he’s still

awaiting trial and the Judgment of the court number nine Pastor Dumbo Adu 52y Nigerian Pastor was put behind bars for allegedly abducting A dispatch Rider and detaining him on the ground in a facility this unfortunately was not the first time that the supposed man of God had kidnapped an individual in exchange for ransom in a day to Kumo’s defense he had only kidnapped a few people in order to raise money for charity which in this case is a more suitable reason to do so he also explained how he needed the fund

in an upcoming salar festivity to purchase items like rice beans and palm oil to distribute to the needy furthering that his charity program cut across all religions the general overseer of the New Life Church of God was said to use Anastasia to kidnap his victims and then tie them up but he had only done so to avoid them getting injured the religious gang was said to have compromised to start my Ministry because I was not having free will to do the charity I was I’m doing were also arrested and were linked to the

kidnappings with several of unlicensed weapons and went all around from armed robbery to cattle rustling car theft ad did to kumbo was arrested in 2020 and was paraded for his notor number eight cha AKA Reverend King was arrested as far back as in 2006 but had remained and was recognized for his criminal actions following his Nationwide trial that Drew the attention of numerous Nigerians the church Christian praying assembly founded by Reverend King was said to have lost a female congregant an uzo after she had been killed by by the

Reverend who claimed to have caught her in the act of fornication and had taken judgment into his hands a total of 10 Witnesses testified that Reverend King was the perpetrator even though the pastor had pleaded not guilty he was also tried for having romantic relationship with some of his members and had often molested his church members according to the numerous testifiers he later admitted that he had abused some of his parishioners but not using the word abuse or assault but explained it that he does not condone

sin he had whipped many of his members back to shape for example if a husband and wife had an argument he would intervene and whoever was her fault would be whipped back into sinlessness or if the person refused he or she would be sent out of the church it was also discovered that Reverend King had intentions of running for the Office of the President of Nigeria in 2019 Nigerian general elections however many had deemed it false news it was later found guilty of the murder of an uzor and was sentenced to death by hanging

and 20 years for attempted murder number seven Leo Daniels now let’s to another Pastor who rot models after Prophet Doom the name of the South African Pastor who may have etched the mark in your memory for his unbelievable miracles happens to be on this list Prophet Leo Daniels yes the prophet who claimed to have cured cancer and HIV through his Supernatural insecticide and how you may ask but by emptying a full canister of insecticide into the eyes nose and even the mouth of his members he had also turned petrol

into pineapple juice oh you want to drink pineapple juice okay the SE go try something he shouldn’t have the raboni center Minister was arrested by the police after the insecticide viral pictures and videos were spread around and of course invited the eyes of the human rights division number six Pastor light monaki South African Pastor Prophet light monaki of Greece Living Hope Ministries who is known to have mixed a deadly rat poison with water and gave it to his members to drink claimed that it was an act to show the power of Fate the poison

ratex which is toxic to humans and may as well be one of the most effective poisons when dealing with pest however consumed by humans it is most likely that the best option is to seek medical help immediately profer monaki of the South African church in one of his Services took an amount of the powder poison mixed it into a bottle of cold water shook it and Recon on any member who was ready to display an Act of Faith soon many came out and took a drink for themselves following after all the cheers and prayers and with five dead

and 13 rushed to the hospital after consuming the poison light Moni’s incident then spared a lot of attention and a police investigation he was then taken in for questioning but no further news was heard of him after then number five T panako mday Nan Pastor Tu panako mday was arrested in Ghana for fraud in the year 2010 serving at the Evangelistic vine ministry at Akra he was discovered to have been dubbing documents on the internet containing exploration work at the new month go Ghana limited and had used it to defraud

a Canadian investor he had also posed as a ghanian businessman who had a gold concession for sale at the cost of $10 million he had even obtained a ghanian passport with a fake name and traveled in and out of the country with it luckily the victim had contacted someone at the new Mon’s gold gner limited and had realized that he was dealing with a fraud stamp he had involved the police and was then arrested after surveillance and investigation during the investigation he had confessed that he had forged documents and also made deals

like this before in the in the past T was then taken by the ghanian police number four Le another door dropping Church related crime that took place was when the assistant pastor of the celestial Church of Christ Grace of comfort Parish in Le was revealed to have allegedly killed his Pastor Maurice F because there was not much to work with as they couldn’t confirm what had happened between the individuals later on and after a lot of Investigation it was found that the suspect who had happened to be Leon had allegedly bit up

a prophet who had come to their church after getting into an argument with her the pastor Maurice had also gotten with the suspect and had decided to punish him by taking away the keys to the church from him which must have been a very big deal considering how angry he had been he had then attacked the pastor while he was praying and tried to burn the body to cover his tracks but fortunately all did not go to plan as well as he thought he did he had pretended to call for help when members had found some blood stains on their

assistant pastor in some very unusual places then the police intervened he was then taken by the police in a rather violent manner since he had resisted arrest number three Pastor Paul songor Victory World International ministri Church leader has got to be the only Pastor facing the least problem and the criminal charges so far because Paul sayori was given a 3-mth jail term after he had failed to settle $10,200 debt with a satellite transmission company vat limited Sayang Gore who’s popular for his phone call to heav online and

his sewage water drinking Miracles as well as working on water not forgetting his turning Water to Wine Miracle managed to get to CT but this time just for depth this of course was in 2019 when the pel was taken to court by the us- based company he was then ordered by the high court to pay the money ow at the rate of $350 per month and a civil imprisonment for a period of 90 days and number two is the general overseer of Christ Living Hope Church Reverend eem Emanuel uku who was arrested with drugs at the Lagos Airport in 2022 he was

found with about 54 Stakes of drugs wrapped around his body all testing positive to cannabis on his way to his 3-day crusade in nirobi Kenya the passle had been handed over to ndlea and clarified that he wouldn’t be getting any preferential treatment because of his cleric status but will be treated in accordance to law until his trial which was also stated that the Reverend was later given Bill set at 2 million Nira and finally number one is the Doom Pastor himself Leo rabal logo who runs Mount Zion General Assembly however and

almost thankfully he was arrested after he had sprayed insecticide into his members body parts to cure them in quote of their various ailments the South African Pastor was accused of endanger lives and face charges from the insecticide manufacturers tiger brand during his arrest he was examined as well as his other eyebrow raising Miracles while he was issuing the court order to stop spraying his members he insisted that his methods were harmless and would actually help his members recover from their illnesses rabal lagu

faed a total of five charges and was forced to face the music May Justice be served to all type Amen in the comment section and be sure to join in the conversation and I’ll see you in the next video

QQ4 Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The friendship began on a live television program in November of 1986 in the 11 seconds after Bob Dylan called Keith Richards music derivative on camera. Keith Richard’s response to that assessment, one sentence said without anger, without performance, with the specific directness of a man who has nothing to prove and knows it made Bob Dylan laugh.

Then made Bob Dylan go quiet. then made Bob Dylan say two words that people who know Bob Dylan say he almost never said to anyone. This is the story of those 11 seconds and the 40 years that followed them. The program was a live music interview special broadcast on an American network on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The format was simple.

Two musicians, a host, an hour of conversation about music and the state of it. The producers had assembled the pairing of Bob Dylan and Keith Richards with the specific calculation of television producers who understand that two people with equally strong and potentially incompatible views about what music is and what it should do will produce better television than two people who agree about everything.

The calculation was correct, though not in the way the producers had anticipated. Bob Dylan was 45 years old in November of 1986. Bob Dylan had released Empire Burlesque the previous year and had been on the road for most of the intervening period as part of the True Confessions tour with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

Bob Dylan was in November of 1986 in one of the most prolific and restless phases of a career that had consisted almost entirely of prolific and restless phases. A career that had moved through folk, rock, country, gospel, and back again, that had been declared finished at least six times by the music press, and at each time continued with the serene indifference of a river to the opinions of people standing on its banks.

Bob Dylan had been redefining what music could be. Since 1962, Bob Dylan had invented and reinvented himself so many times that reinvention had become his defining characteristic, not in the superficial sense of a performer changing costumes, but in the deeper sense of a musician who had never allowed his work to settle into a form that could be anticipated or categorized from the outside.

Bob Dylan understood influence and originality and the relationship between them better than almost anyone alive in 1986. Bob Dylan had spent 24 years thinking carefully and specifically about where music came from and where music was going and what it meant that those two things were always in constant conversation with each other.

Keith Richards was 42 years old in November of 1986. Keith Richards had been playing guitar professionally since 1962. Keith Richards had built a career on a foundation of American blues and rhythm and blues. A foundation that Keith Richards had studied with the systematic devotion of someone who understood that the tradition he was building on was not incidental to the music he was making, but essential to it.

that you could not understand what Keith Richards did without understanding where Keith Richards had come from and what Keith Richards had been listening to since he was a teenager in Dartford with American Import Records and a secondhand guitar and no teacher except the recordings themselves. Keith Richards had never pretended otherwise. Keith Richards had in fact spent considerable energy across his career making the lineage explicit, naming the artists, citing the recordings, insisting on the acknowledgement of influence that the mainstream music

industry had a long history of suppressing or ignoring or crediting to the wrong people. If anything, Keith Richards was more transparent about his sources than most musicians of his generation. Keith Richards had always said openly that the Rolling Stones came directly from the blues, that Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson and the specific tradition of the Mississippi Delta were not background influences, but foundational ones.

The music Keith Richards made was in direct and sustained conversation with that tradition, something Keith Richards considered not a limitation, but a responsibility and a form of respect. The interview had been running for 8 minutes when the host asked Bob Dylan about the current state of rock and roll.

Bob Dylan answered with the density and the indirection that characterized Bob Dylan’s responses to direct questions, turning the question over, approaching it from an unexpected angle, finding his way to what he actually thought through a series of observations that moved like a river rather than a road. Bob Dylan was not a straightforward interview subject.

Bob Dylan had been asked about rock and roll in hundreds of interviews across 24 years and had developed the habit of treating the question as an invitation to think out loud rather than a request for a prepared position. The producer Gerald Sherman said afterward that in the first 8 minutes of the interview, he had been slightly anxious, not because anything was going wrong, but because nothing was going anywhere in particular yet.

The interview had the feeling of two conversations happening simultaneously. Bob Dylan’s internal one and the external one visible to the cameras. And Gerald Sherman was not certain in those first eight minutes that the two conversations would converge into something. Bob Dylan talked about influence. Bob Dylan talked about originality.

Bob Dylan talked about the difference between music that absorbed a tradition and transformed it and music that absorbed a tradition and reproduced it. And then Bob Dylan made his assessment. And then Bob Dylan said with the precision of a man making a musical assessment rather than a personal judgment that the Rolling Stones work, and Bob Dylan was specific, naming Keith Richards as the guitarist whose approach he was discussing was derivative in a way that Bob Dylan found limiting.

Bob Dylan said it without hostility. Bob Dylan said it as a technical observation about the relationship between source material and the work that came from it. Bob Dylan said that Keith Richards played the blues the way the blues had already been played, rather than using the blues as a starting point for something that had not yet been played.

Keith Richards had been listening to this with the specific attention Keith Richards gave to things being said about music by people who knew music. Keith Richards did not interrupt. Keith Richards did not shift in his chair or display any of the visible signals of a person preparing a defensive response. Keith Richards listened to Bob Dylan’s complete observation all the way to its conclusion without interrupting and without displaying any visible signal of preparing a response.

Then Keith Richards said one sentence. The sentence was not a rebuttal. The sentence did not defend Keith Richards music or argue for its originality or challenge Bob Dylan’s characterization of what the blues meant in the context of rock and roll. The sentence was something else entirely, something that required a specific kind of confidence to say.

The confidence of a person who has spent long enough thinking about the same things as the person they are talking to that they can locate the exact point where their thinking diverges and say something useful about that point rather than simply defending their own position. The sentence acknowledged everything Bob Dylan had said, the assessment, the distinction Bob Dylan was drawing, the specific musical concern underlying the observation, and then turned it 90°.

Keith Richards took Bob Dylan’s own framework, the one Bob Dylan had used to analyze Keith Richards relationship to the blues tradition, and applied it back to Bob Dylan’s work with the same precision Bob Dylan had used to apply it to Keith Richards. Spare aimed. The sentence asked Bob Dylan something about Bob Dylan’s own music, about the relationship between Bob Dylan’s sources and Bob Dylan’s output that Bob Dylan had not been asked on television before.

The sentence did not attack. The sentence illuminated. Bob Dylan laughed. The laugh was not the polite laugh of someone responding to a joke. The laugh was the involuntary laugh of someone who has been genuinely surprised. The specific kind of surprise that a person of exceptional intelligence experiences when someone else’s intelligence exceeds their expectations.

Bob Dylan laughed for 4 seconds. Then Bob Dylan stopped laughing. Then Bob Dylan was quiet for 3 seconds in the way that Bob Dylan was quiet when Bob Dylan was thinking rather than performing thought. Then Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” The producer in the booth, a man named Gerald Sherman, who had been working in television for 14 years, said afterward that in 14 years of live television production, he had never heard Bob Dylan say those two words in a public forum.

Gerald Sherman said he had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions and had observed Bob Dylan in numerous other contexts and that you’re right was not a phrase that Bob Dylan deployed easily or often because Bob Dylan had spent 24 years being right about music in ways that other people eventually caught up with. And the experience of being right ahead of everyone else does not generally produce a man who says you’re right readily when someone else makes a point.

The host of the program, a journalist named Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said afterward that the 11 seconds between Bob Dylan’s assessment and Bob Dylan saying, “You’re right,” were the most extraordinary 11 seconds of television she had been present for. Patricia Wells said that what she witnessed in those 11 seconds was not a debate or a confrontation or a celebrity exchange of competing opinions.

Patricia Wells said what she witnessed was one musician recognizing another musician as an equal, which was in the specific context of Bob Dylan in 1986, not something that happened in public very often. The interview continued for another 42 minutes after those 11 seconds. The conversation between Bob Dylan and Keith Richards in the remaining 42 minutes was described by everyone who watched it as fundamentally different from the first 8 minutes.

The host, Patricia Wells, who had been conducting music interviews for 12 years and understood the difference between the performance of conversation and actual conversation, said that at approximately the 9-minute mark, something shifted in the studio. That the formal interview, architecture dissolved, and what replaced it was something less structured and more genuine.

Bob Dylan and Keith Richards talked about influence and originality and the blues and what it meant to build on a tradition without being consumed by it. They talked about specific recordings and specific musicians with the specificity of two people who had spent their entire adult lives thinking about these things and rarely found another person who had thought about them with equivalent care.

They talked about where music came from and where music was going and whether those two questions were actually one question or two. Patricia Wells said afterward that she had asked approximately four questions in the remaining 42 minutes because Bob Dylan and Keith Richards did not require questions. They required only a room and a camera and the shared understanding that what they were saying together was worth recording carefully.

She said it was the best interview she had ever conducted and that she had conducted the smallest part of it. After the program, Bob Dylan and Keith Richards were in the corridor outside the studio when the host Patricia Wells passed them. Patricia Wells said she did not stop because she did not want to interrupt.

She observed them for approximately 30 seconds from a distance. She said they were talking with the ease of people who had known each other for years rather than people who had met for the first time 2 hours earlier. She said that something had shifted between them during the broadcast that the broadcast had made permanent rather than temporary.

She continued down the corridor and did not look back. She said in her account of that evening that she had decided in that moment not to interrupt the conversation because some conversations are more valuable than any question a journalist might ask and that the conversation she had observed for 30 seconds in the corridor outside the studio was one of them.

She had been a music journalist for 12 years. She recognized the difference. Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have maintained their friendship across four decades. They have appeared together at various events, most significantly at the concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995, where people who were present described them as inseparable for most of the evening, occupying the same corner of the backstage area and talking with the concentrated attention of people who only have a limited amount of time together and intend to use it

well. Bob Dylan has spoken about Keith Richards in interviews with the specific thoughtful care that Bob Dylan reserves for musicians whose work Bob Dylan considers genuinely important rather than merely culturally prominent. Keith Richards has spoken about Bob Dylan in similar terms with the specific respect of someone who recognizes in another person a commitment to music that goes deeper than career.

Neither Bob Dylan nor Keith Richards has made a public statement specifically about how the friendship began or about the November 1986 interview. Bob Dylan has not mentioned the 11 seconds. Keith Richards has not mentioned the sentence. The interview exists in the archive. The 11 seconds are there. The laugh is there. The two words are there.

What is also there for anyone who watches the interview from its beginning and pays attention to the shift that happens at the 9-minute mark is the specific moment when two people who thought they were appearing on a television program discovered they were actually talking to each other. What Keith Richards said in that one sentence has never been officially reported.

The people who were in the studio that evening, Gerald Sherman, Patricia Wells, the floor crew, the two camera operators, the makeup artist who was watching from the side of the set, have described the sentence in consistent terms. They have described its effect. They have described Bob Dylan’s laugh and Bob Dylan’s silence and Bob Dylan’s two words.

They have not repeated the sentence itself in the specific understanding that the sentence was said between two musicians on a television program and that its power resided in the specific context of that exchange and would not survive removal from it intact. What can be said is this. Keith Richards said something to Bob Dylan about Bob Dylan’s music that used Bob Dylan’s own observation about Keith Richards as its starting point and arrived somewhere that Bob Dylan had not anticipated.

Keith Richards turned Bob Dylan’s assessment 90° and showed Bob Dylan something about the music they had both spent their lives making that Bob Dylan recognized immediately as true. And Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” Two words said by Bob Dylan in public on live television in 1986 to Keith Richards in response to a single sentence Keith Richards had said about music.

Two words that Gerald Sherman, who had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions, said he had never heard Bob Dylan say in a public forum. Two words that Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said were the most significant two words she had heard in those 12 years. Not because of their content, but because of who said them and what it cost to say them and what it meant that Keith Richards had produced them in 11 seconds from a conversation that began with Bob Dylan calling Keith Richards’s music derivative. And Keith Richards and

Bob Dylan have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The sentence did its work in 11 seconds on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The work has been ongoing ever since. If this story moved you, subscribe and leave a comment below. Have you ever said something to someone that turned a potential disagreement into an unexpected and lasting connection? Tell us about it in the comments below.

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