1950, a factory floor in Lansing, Michigan. A truck rolls off the assembly line. Six wheels, a flat steel cargo bed, a canvas roof over a cab that offers the driver no more comfort than a park bench. No air conditioning, no power steering, no electronics of any kind. The engine, a big inline six mounted under a squared-off hood, announces itself with a rising mechanical groan that sounds less like a vehicle and more like something suffering.
It weighs nearly 7 tons empty. It tops out at 56 miles per hour. Its cab shakes at highway speed. It offers the driver exactly two luxuries, a seat and a steering wheel, and the seat is not padded. It looked obsolete before it left the factory. It looked like a machine the army had built because it could not think of anything better.
It looked, in the words of soldiers who had spent years riding in it, like punishment. It would go on to serve in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Bosnia, Iraq, and Afghanistan. It would be operated by the armies of more than 80 nations. It would carry three generations of American soldiers into three separate wars. It would still be rolling on military logistics routes more than 50 years after the first one left that factory floor in Lansing.
Its designation was the M35 2 and 1/2 ton 6×6 cargo truck, and soldiers called it the deuce and a half. It was the most important American military vehicle of the 20th century that almost no one has heard of. To understand why the M35 existed, you need to understand the wreckage the United States Army was sorting through in 1945.
The war in Europe ended with American supply lines running on an improvised collection of trucks, the Harvester M56, the Studebaker US6. Vehicles designed by different manufacturers to different specifications with different electrical systems, different generators, and different spare parts. Keeping them all moving had required an industrial supply chain of almost comic complexity.
The solution the Ordnance Department devised in the late 1940s was deceptively simple. One truck, one chassis, one engine family, one parts inventory covering every variant from basic cargo hauler to fuel tanker to maintenance shop on wheels. The competition came down to two manufacturers. General Motors defended its wartime legacy with a sophisticated entry featuring an automatic transmission.
REO Motor Car Company of Lansing, Michigan submitted something simpler and more rugged, a manual gearbox, a straightforward inline six, and a chassis that a reasonably skilled mechanic could diagnose with a hammer and a flashlight. REO 1. The army standardized the design across all US services.
General Motors production ended in 1955. The deuce was born. The vehicle that rolled out of Lansing carried an engine of 331 cubic inches. In the original gasoline configuration, it produced 127 horsepower. That sounds modest, and it was, but the engineering story of the M35 is really the story of what happened to that engine.
In 1964, when the army introduced the Continental LDT 465 turbocharged multifuel inline six. Multifuel. The word sounds routine. In practice, it was extraordinary. The 465 would run on diesel. It would run on jet fuel. It would run on kerosene. It would run on home heating oil. It would run on a mixture of three parts diesel to one part gasoline.
If a driver poured a quart of motor oil into the tank first to protect the injection pump. Soldiers discovered that this list was essentially the start of a longer conversation. The engine did not particularly care. It ran. The turbocharger added another dimension. It produced a distinctive rising scream when the engine came under load.
A sound so recognizable that soldiers who served alongside the truck never forgot it. The turbocharged M35A2, the variant most American soldiers from the 1960s through the 1990s actually remember, announced its presence before it arrived and long after it left. Troops called it the whistler. The chassis itself was a 6×6.
All six wheels driven. two independent rear axles gave it the traction to cross terrain that would stop a conventional truck cold. A two-speed transfer case combined with five forward gears in the manual transmission gave the driver 10 effective gear combinations. Payload was rated at 5,000 lb cross-country and 10,000 lb on improved roads.
Every driver in the history of the truck loaded it to twice that without complaint from the chassis. The cargo bed was 12 ft long and 8 ft wide. Removable bows and a canvas cover, the truck could carry 25 fully equipped infantry soldiers or 10,000 lb of artillery shells or a complete field kitchen.
There were more than 20 official variants built on the same chassis. Dump trucks, water tankers, fuel tankers, maintenance shop vans, missile carriers, wreckers, and crane trucks. One chassis, everything the army needed to keep itself alive in the field. Before we get into where this truck actually fought and what it cost the men who drove it, if you are finding this deep dive into American military history worth your time, hit subscribe.
It costs nothing and it helps the channel grow. The M35 arrived in service during the Korean War and its legacy there is more about what came next than what happened then. The army had hundreds of thousands of wartime trucks sitting in depots across Europe and the Pacific and those older vehicles did most of the Korean War’s hauling, but the conflict transformed what had been a modest production contract into a mass manufacturing program.
By the time the armistice was signed in 1953, the deuce was in full production and moving into frontline service with every branch of the US military. Vietnam made it famous. By 1965, the M35 was the standard medium logistics truck of the US Army Transportation Corps deploying to South Vietnam. The mission was to move supplies from the coastal ports of Qui Nhon and Cam Ranh Bay to inland bases at Pleiku, Bong Son, An Khe, and Buon Ma Thuot, sometimes covering 200 mi of mountain road per convoy run.
Convoys of 100 trucks or more carrying ammunition, jet fuel, food, and medical supplies ran these routes every day of the war. The principal unit was the 8th Transportation Group out of Qui Nhon with the 27th, 124th, and 523rd Transportation Battalions doing most of the daily hauling. The road they feared most was Route 19, a two-lane mountain highway running from the coast through An Khe Pass and the Mang Yang Pass into the Central Highlands.
The French had named one stretch Ambush Alley. The name required no translation. On September 2nd, 1967, a 39-truck convoy returning empty from Pleiku was ambushed in a 700-m kill zone west of An Khe. The escort consisted of two light utility vehicles. A rocket destroyed the lead vehicle in the first seconds. The convoy was raked with automatic weapons fire, rocket-propelled grenades, recoilless rifle rounds, and command-detonated mines.
Seven drivers were killed, 17 were wounded, and 30 trucks were destroyed or damaged. The Army’s response changed the war at ground level. Drivers and mechanics of the transportation companies, without authorization from anyone began stripping cargo trucks and welding armor plate to the cargo beds. They mounted .
50-caliber M2 Browning machine guns on pintle rings, twin M60 general-purpose machine guns on pedestal mounts, and in some cases four-barreled M55 quad mount systems capable of firing 2,000 rounds per minute. They painted the trucks flat black and gave them names: Eve of Destruction, Brutus, King Cobra, The Untouchable, Pure Hell, Ace of Spades, Pandemonium.
By 1968, there were roughly three to four hundred of these improvised war machines running convoy escort on every major supply route in Vietnam. No Army regulation authorized them. No supply chain stocked parts for them. No official doctrine described how to use them. Drivers and gunners invented the doctrine themselves, one ambush at a time.
The men who crewed them paid a price. On August 25th, 1968, Sergeant William W. Seay of the 62nd Transportation Company was driving in an 81 truck convoy from Long Binh to Tan An Combat Base when a reinforced North Vietnamese Army battalion ambushed the column near the village of Ap Nhi, firing from the Ben Cui rubber plantation.
Two fuel tankers at the front and two ammunition trailers at the rear were set ablaze simultaneously, trapping the center of the convoy with no exits and no room to maneuver. Seay was 19 years old and 60 days from rotating home. He had rotation orders in his pocket. He dismounted anyway. He fought for 9 hours alongside Specialist Fourth Class David Sellman from behind a trailer loaded with artillery powder charges.
He killed two enemy soldiers and a sniper at 75 m. He threw two enemy grenades back at their owners before they detonated. He was shot through the right wrist and kept fighting one-handed. He killed three more soldiers who had penetrated his position before a sniper’s round ended the fight. Seven drivers were killed that day. 10 were wounded.
Two were captured. William Seay received the Medal of Honor posthumously on April 7th, 1970. He was one of four Transportation Corps soldiers in the entire history of the United States Army to receive that decoration. The Navy named a prepositioning ship after him. On February 23rd, 1971, Specialist Fourth Class Larry G.
Doll was a machine gunner on the gun truck Brutus when his section drove into a North Vietnamese ambush on An Khe Pass to relieve a burning fuel convoy. An enemy grenade landed in the gun box. Doll yelled a warning and threw himself onto it. He was 21 years old. Vice President Gerald Ford presented the Medal of Honor to his family on August 8th, 1974, hours before Ford assumed the presidency following Nixon’s resignation.
The Navy named a ship after him as well. These were not combat soldiers. They were truck drivers. The Army sent them to war in cargo trucks and they fought as though they had been born to it. The M35 deployed to the Gulf War in 1990 and 1991 in National Guard, Marine Corps, and Navy Seabee construction units across Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, it drove through the desert alongside the tanks of the 7th Corps.
It served under NATO colors in Bosnia beginning in December 1995. It hauled ammunition and supplies through the early years of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. The United States military transferred roughly 400 M35 trucks to the Afghan National Army because the truck’s mechanical simplicity, tolerance for poor fuel, and manual transmission made it better suited to Afghan field conditions than anything more modern.
Those trucks were still rolling when Kabul fell in August 2021. The Soviets had their own answer to the deuce. The ZIL 157 entered service in 1958 as the standard Soviet 6×6 medium truck. It produced 109 horsepower from a gasoline-only inline-six, about 25% less than the M35A2 turbocharged multifuel. It was produced in extraordinary numbers, nearly 800,000 units, and its centralized tire pressure system gave it genuine advantages in soft soil, but it ran only on gasoline, consumed fuel at a rate that strained Soviet logistics in
extended operations, and offered no multifuel flexibility whatsoever. The ZIL 131, introduced in 1967, improved the picture. 150 horsepower, roughly comparable payload, better cold weather performance. Soviet automotive historians have noted that the ZIL 131’s chassis showed evidence of influence from captured American M34 and M35 trucks examined after Korea and Vietnam.
If accurate, the deuce helped father its own rival. The M35A2 was officially replaced in US service by the family of medium tactical vehicles, specifically the M1078 light medium tactical vehicle, a 4×4 cab-over design derived from an Austrian truck. The The vehicle was quieter, faster, more fuel-efficient, and offered superior driver comfort.
It also carried electronic engine controls and sensor architecture that in field conditions could fail in ways no mechanic with a hammer and a flashlight could repair at the roadside. A government audit in the 1990s concluded that rebuilt M35A2 trucks still met 95% of Family of Medium Tactical Vehicle Performance Requirements at 60% of the cost.
That audit is why the M35A3 rebuild program continued until 1999. Thousands of M35s survive in civilian hands. Surplus trucks sell on military auction platforms for $3,000 to $25,000 depending on condition. They serve with wildland firefighting agencies across the American West. They work as expedition vehicles, rural fire tenders, and overland camper platforms for a community of owners who value the truck’s mechanical honesty above everything else.
More than 80 nations have operated the M35. Over 20 are still using it today. Return to Lansing, Michigan, 1950. A truck rolls off the assembly line. It is slow. It is loud. The cab shakes. There is no padding on the seat. The engine, when it is working hard, sounds close to suffering. It had no night vision, no air conditioning, no electronics, no blast-resistant floor, no armor on the doors, nothing between the driver and the ambush around the next bend on Route 19 except steel plate and the gun truck two positions ahead. And those only because
the men who drove the cargo trucks and built the gun trucks themselves. Without orders, without a budget, without any official acknowledgement that the mission they were running every day was as dangerous as any infantry patrol in the country. And yet it worked. In the mountain passes above An Khe and the rubber plantations near Tay Ninh, in the oil fields of Kuwait and the supply routes of Kandahar, on convoys no one outside the Transportation Corps remembers, and in ambushes that earned medals no one outside those units knows
exist. It worked because it was simple, because it was honest, because it never asked for more than fuel and basic maintenance, and because the men who drove it gave it everything else it needed. That is not luck. That is 50 years of showing up.
QQ4 Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The friendship began on a live television program in November of 1986 in the 11 seconds after Bob Dylan called Keith Richards music derivative on camera. Keith Richard’s response to that assessment, one sentence said without anger, without performance, with the specific directness of a man who has nothing to prove and knows it made Bob Dylan laugh.
Then made Bob Dylan go quiet. then made Bob Dylan say two words that people who know Bob Dylan say he almost never said to anyone. This is the story of those 11 seconds and the 40 years that followed them. The program was a live music interview special broadcast on an American network on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The format was simple.
Two musicians, a host, an hour of conversation about music and the state of it. The producers had assembled the pairing of Bob Dylan and Keith Richards with the specific calculation of television producers who understand that two people with equally strong and potentially incompatible views about what music is and what it should do will produce better television than two people who agree about everything.
The calculation was correct, though not in the way the producers had anticipated. Bob Dylan was 45 years old in November of 1986. Bob Dylan had released Empire Burlesque the previous year and had been on the road for most of the intervening period as part of the True Confessions tour with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
Bob Dylan was in November of 1986 in one of the most prolific and restless phases of a career that had consisted almost entirely of prolific and restless phases. A career that had moved through folk, rock, country, gospel, and back again, that had been declared finished at least six times by the music press, and at each time continued with the serene indifference of a river to the opinions of people standing on its banks.
Bob Dylan had been redefining what music could be. Since 1962, Bob Dylan had invented and reinvented himself so many times that reinvention had become his defining characteristic, not in the superficial sense of a performer changing costumes, but in the deeper sense of a musician who had never allowed his work to settle into a form that could be anticipated or categorized from the outside.
Bob Dylan understood influence and originality and the relationship between them better than almost anyone alive in 1986. Bob Dylan had spent 24 years thinking carefully and specifically about where music came from and where music was going and what it meant that those two things were always in constant conversation with each other.
Keith Richards was 42 years old in November of 1986. Keith Richards had been playing guitar professionally since 1962. Keith Richards had built a career on a foundation of American blues and rhythm and blues. A foundation that Keith Richards had studied with the systematic devotion of someone who understood that the tradition he was building on was not incidental to the music he was making, but essential to it.
that you could not understand what Keith Richards did without understanding where Keith Richards had come from and what Keith Richards had been listening to since he was a teenager in Dartford with American Import Records and a secondhand guitar and no teacher except the recordings themselves. Keith Richards had never pretended otherwise. Keith Richards had in fact spent considerable energy across his career making the lineage explicit, naming the artists, citing the recordings, insisting on the acknowledgement of influence that the mainstream music
industry had a long history of suppressing or ignoring or crediting to the wrong people. If anything, Keith Richards was more transparent about his sources than most musicians of his generation. Keith Richards had always said openly that the Rolling Stones came directly from the blues, that Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson and the specific tradition of the Mississippi Delta were not background influences, but foundational ones.
The music Keith Richards made was in direct and sustained conversation with that tradition, something Keith Richards considered not a limitation, but a responsibility and a form of respect. The interview had been running for 8 minutes when the host asked Bob Dylan about the current state of rock and roll.
Bob Dylan answered with the density and the indirection that characterized Bob Dylan’s responses to direct questions, turning the question over, approaching it from an unexpected angle, finding his way to what he actually thought through a series of observations that moved like a river rather than a road. Bob Dylan was not a straightforward interview subject.
Bob Dylan had been asked about rock and roll in hundreds of interviews across 24 years and had developed the habit of treating the question as an invitation to think out loud rather than a request for a prepared position. The producer Gerald Sherman said afterward that in the first 8 minutes of the interview, he had been slightly anxious, not because anything was going wrong, but because nothing was going anywhere in particular yet.
The interview had the feeling of two conversations happening simultaneously. Bob Dylan’s internal one and the external one visible to the cameras. And Gerald Sherman was not certain in those first eight minutes that the two conversations would converge into something. Bob Dylan talked about influence. Bob Dylan talked about originality.
Bob Dylan talked about the difference between music that absorbed a tradition and transformed it and music that absorbed a tradition and reproduced it. And then Bob Dylan made his assessment. And then Bob Dylan said with the precision of a man making a musical assessment rather than a personal judgment that the Rolling Stones work, and Bob Dylan was specific, naming Keith Richards as the guitarist whose approach he was discussing was derivative in a way that Bob Dylan found limiting.
Bob Dylan said it without hostility. Bob Dylan said it as a technical observation about the relationship between source material and the work that came from it. Bob Dylan said that Keith Richards played the blues the way the blues had already been played, rather than using the blues as a starting point for something that had not yet been played.
Keith Richards had been listening to this with the specific attention Keith Richards gave to things being said about music by people who knew music. Keith Richards did not interrupt. Keith Richards did not shift in his chair or display any of the visible signals of a person preparing a defensive response. Keith Richards listened to Bob Dylan’s complete observation all the way to its conclusion without interrupting and without displaying any visible signal of preparing a response.
Then Keith Richards said one sentence. The sentence was not a rebuttal. The sentence did not defend Keith Richards music or argue for its originality or challenge Bob Dylan’s characterization of what the blues meant in the context of rock and roll. The sentence was something else entirely, something that required a specific kind of confidence to say.
The confidence of a person who has spent long enough thinking about the same things as the person they are talking to that they can locate the exact point where their thinking diverges and say something useful about that point rather than simply defending their own position. The sentence acknowledged everything Bob Dylan had said, the assessment, the distinction Bob Dylan was drawing, the specific musical concern underlying the observation, and then turned it 90°.
Keith Richards took Bob Dylan’s own framework, the one Bob Dylan had used to analyze Keith Richards relationship to the blues tradition, and applied it back to Bob Dylan’s work with the same precision Bob Dylan had used to apply it to Keith Richards. Spare aimed. The sentence asked Bob Dylan something about Bob Dylan’s own music, about the relationship between Bob Dylan’s sources and Bob Dylan’s output that Bob Dylan had not been asked on television before.
The sentence did not attack. The sentence illuminated. Bob Dylan laughed. The laugh was not the polite laugh of someone responding to a joke. The laugh was the involuntary laugh of someone who has been genuinely surprised. The specific kind of surprise that a person of exceptional intelligence experiences when someone else’s intelligence exceeds their expectations.
Bob Dylan laughed for 4 seconds. Then Bob Dylan stopped laughing. Then Bob Dylan was quiet for 3 seconds in the way that Bob Dylan was quiet when Bob Dylan was thinking rather than performing thought. Then Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” The producer in the booth, a man named Gerald Sherman, who had been working in television for 14 years, said afterward that in 14 years of live television production, he had never heard Bob Dylan say those two words in a public forum.
Gerald Sherman said he had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions and had observed Bob Dylan in numerous other contexts and that you’re right was not a phrase that Bob Dylan deployed easily or often because Bob Dylan had spent 24 years being right about music in ways that other people eventually caught up with. And the experience of being right ahead of everyone else does not generally produce a man who says you’re right readily when someone else makes a point.
The host of the program, a journalist named Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said afterward that the 11 seconds between Bob Dylan’s assessment and Bob Dylan saying, “You’re right,” were the most extraordinary 11 seconds of television she had been present for. Patricia Wells said that what she witnessed in those 11 seconds was not a debate or a confrontation or a celebrity exchange of competing opinions.
Patricia Wells said what she witnessed was one musician recognizing another musician as an equal, which was in the specific context of Bob Dylan in 1986, not something that happened in public very often. The interview continued for another 42 minutes after those 11 seconds. The conversation between Bob Dylan and Keith Richards in the remaining 42 minutes was described by everyone who watched it as fundamentally different from the first 8 minutes.
The host, Patricia Wells, who had been conducting music interviews for 12 years and understood the difference between the performance of conversation and actual conversation, said that at approximately the 9-minute mark, something shifted in the studio. That the formal interview, architecture dissolved, and what replaced it was something less structured and more genuine.
Bob Dylan and Keith Richards talked about influence and originality and the blues and what it meant to build on a tradition without being consumed by it. They talked about specific recordings and specific musicians with the specificity of two people who had spent their entire adult lives thinking about these things and rarely found another person who had thought about them with equivalent care.
They talked about where music came from and where music was going and whether those two questions were actually one question or two. Patricia Wells said afterward that she had asked approximately four questions in the remaining 42 minutes because Bob Dylan and Keith Richards did not require questions. They required only a room and a camera and the shared understanding that what they were saying together was worth recording carefully.
She said it was the best interview she had ever conducted and that she had conducted the smallest part of it. After the program, Bob Dylan and Keith Richards were in the corridor outside the studio when the host Patricia Wells passed them. Patricia Wells said she did not stop because she did not want to interrupt.
She observed them for approximately 30 seconds from a distance. She said they were talking with the ease of people who had known each other for years rather than people who had met for the first time 2 hours earlier. She said that something had shifted between them during the broadcast that the broadcast had made permanent rather than temporary.
She continued down the corridor and did not look back. She said in her account of that evening that she had decided in that moment not to interrupt the conversation because some conversations are more valuable than any question a journalist might ask and that the conversation she had observed for 30 seconds in the corridor outside the studio was one of them.
She had been a music journalist for 12 years. She recognized the difference. Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have maintained their friendship across four decades. They have appeared together at various events, most significantly at the concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995, where people who were present described them as inseparable for most of the evening, occupying the same corner of the backstage area and talking with the concentrated attention of people who only have a limited amount of time together and intend to use it
well. Bob Dylan has spoken about Keith Richards in interviews with the specific thoughtful care that Bob Dylan reserves for musicians whose work Bob Dylan considers genuinely important rather than merely culturally prominent. Keith Richards has spoken about Bob Dylan in similar terms with the specific respect of someone who recognizes in another person a commitment to music that goes deeper than career.
Neither Bob Dylan nor Keith Richards has made a public statement specifically about how the friendship began or about the November 1986 interview. Bob Dylan has not mentioned the 11 seconds. Keith Richards has not mentioned the sentence. The interview exists in the archive. The 11 seconds are there. The laugh is there. The two words are there.
What is also there for anyone who watches the interview from its beginning and pays attention to the shift that happens at the 9-minute mark is the specific moment when two people who thought they were appearing on a television program discovered they were actually talking to each other. What Keith Richards said in that one sentence has never been officially reported.
The people who were in the studio that evening, Gerald Sherman, Patricia Wells, the floor crew, the two camera operators, the makeup artist who was watching from the side of the set, have described the sentence in consistent terms. They have described its effect. They have described Bob Dylan’s laugh and Bob Dylan’s silence and Bob Dylan’s two words.
They have not repeated the sentence itself in the specific understanding that the sentence was said between two musicians on a television program and that its power resided in the specific context of that exchange and would not survive removal from it intact. What can be said is this. Keith Richards said something to Bob Dylan about Bob Dylan’s music that used Bob Dylan’s own observation about Keith Richards as its starting point and arrived somewhere that Bob Dylan had not anticipated.
Keith Richards turned Bob Dylan’s assessment 90° and showed Bob Dylan something about the music they had both spent their lives making that Bob Dylan recognized immediately as true. And Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” Two words said by Bob Dylan in public on live television in 1986 to Keith Richards in response to a single sentence Keith Richards had said about music.
Two words that Gerald Sherman, who had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions, said he had never heard Bob Dylan say in a public forum. Two words that Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said were the most significant two words she had heard in those 12 years. Not because of their content, but because of who said them and what it cost to say them and what it meant that Keith Richards had produced them in 11 seconds from a conversation that began with Bob Dylan calling Keith Richards’s music derivative. And Keith Richards and
Bob Dylan have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The sentence did its work in 11 seconds on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The work has been ongoing ever since. If this story moved you, subscribe and leave a comment below. Have you ever said something to someone that turned a potential disagreement into an unexpected and lasting connection? Tell us about it in the comments below.
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