Putin never gets tired of losing. And no… We’re not talking about ANOTHER loss on the front… We’re talking about THIS: A Russian influence is approved in the Case. Nicole Painan, the pro- Western candidate, proclaimed her victory in the general elections.
The prime minister and his party are seeking to distance themselves from Moscow and have reaffirmed their rapprochement with the European Union without abandoning their Russian partner. And he really tries. But everything always goes wrong for him . It’s like Homer trying to set up a barbecue. Okay… ALL of us who have two eyes in our heads know… That he’s not doing very well in the war.
But this is not preventing us from seeing THE OTHER WAR that we are losing. And it’s not a military war, it’s a war of influence. And you see, ALL the countries that it used to hold onto out of fear are now slipping away. Moldova voted for Europe. Hungary ousted Orbán. Georgia remains on the edge, but increasingly distant from the Kremlin.
And now Armenia has just elected Pashinyan for the THIRD time in a row: Yes, that guy who plays the drums on Instagram, who records himself making little hearts and who has three times as many followers as Merz on social media. That guy just beat the Kremlin in an election where Putin used everything he had: spies from the SVR, the GRU, the FSB, an oligarch with a Russian passport as a candidate, disinformation campaigns, economic sanctions, and even a “spontaneous” demonstration in front of the Armenian embassy in Moscow, which, curiously, no Russian agent broke up. That is why the European Union announced that it was going to lend a
hand to counteract that. Von der Leyen: Our new EU partnership mission will support you in countering these hybrid threats and disinformation because one thing is absolutely clear. The only legitimate power source of power in this country is the A
rmenian people’s will. Wow, this isn’t an isolated case… Russia already tried these same tactics in Moldova. And he lost. He tested them in Hungary. And he lost. They are testing them in Poland ahead of the upcoming elections. And it’s losing its grip… Every time Putin loses an election in a neighboring country, it becomes clearer that his model of intimidation is running out. People want freedom and prosperity.
And Russia offers the opposite: slavery and decadence. And on top of that, it doesn’t even intimidate like it used to, because EVERYONE has seen how a country with half its population is beating it with low-cost drones. Look at how the Ukrainian delegation arrived at what is known as Putin’s Davos in St. Petersburg: “For example, among the designated targets is the Crostatz naval plant, an important military shipyard located near St.
Petersburg and linked to the maintenance and construction of Russian naval units.” But JOKES APART. Many of you wouldn’t even know where Armenia is on a map… Or until you saw this video, you didn’t even know it existed. So the questions that arise are obvious: What does Pashinyan’s victory in Armenia mean? Will we see a Putin military coup there? Or will Armenia be the next country to join the list of candidates to enter the European Union? Today we’re going to answer all these questions, but first…
And now let’s look at a little history… I’m Fonseca, and welcome to… I know what you ‘re ALL wondering right now … Who is this Pashinyan guy? Because many of you will know him from the viral videos where he plays the drums making a mule face. But jokes aside, where did this guy come from? Nikol Pashinyan is a journalist and activist who came to power in 2018, leading the Velvet Revolution.
And what was that? Well, it was a peaceful revolution where not a single shot was fired, and which ousted President Sargsian from power. In case you did n’t know, that man was a homo sovieticus, who tried to perpetuate himself by changing positions as easily as changing a t-shirt.
Pashinyan organized marches, mobilized hundreds of thousands of people, and ended up as prime minister of a country of 3 million inhabitants located in the Caucasus. That which in Russia they call the backyard. In fact, when Kim Kardashian visited Armenia to learn about her roots, many people discovered that the country existed. Of course, Pashinyan is now also a TikTok star: But beneath the boomerangs is a politician who has made the most difficult decisions an Armenian leader has made in decades.
In 2020, Azerbaijan attacked Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-majority enclave within Azerbaijani territory that had been in dispute for decades. Armenia called Russia, which was its supposed security guarantor. Putin crossed his arms. Armenia lost the war and as a result more than 100,000 Armenians fled.
In 2023, Azerbaijan delivered the final blow and took over everything: “This region is inhabited by a majority of ethnic Armenians, although internationally it is recognized as part of Azerbaijan, which, after a new military operation in September 2023, claimed to have regained sovereignty over the area.” And then something happened that changed Armenia forever. People drew a very simple conclusion.
If we bet on Russia as a guarantor of our security, and we still lost the war, then the STRATEGY was wrong. In 2019, 93% of Armenians described relations with Russia as positive. In 2023, 41% considered Russia a threat. In 2026, 72% support Armenia’s entry into the European Union.
It is the most abrupt shift in public opinion seen in the post-Soviet space: Armenia’s turn towards the West is more than just a thoughtful response to Russia. The fundamental ideals of the Velvet Revolution were much closer to European ideas and values as a rare victory of non-violent ‘people’s power’. Pashinyan decided to do what NO Armenian leader had done before. It recognized Nagorno- Karabakh as a territory of Azerbaijan.
It froze Armenia’s participation in the CSTO, Putin’s NATO. He started buying weapons from France and India instead of Russia. And he traveled to Washington to sit down with Trump, and with Azerbaijani President Aliyev to sign a peace agreement.
Trump gave him a MAGA hat, showed him his souvenir room, and took credit for something that really belonged to Putin. Because Putin was the one who should have mediated that peace. And he ended up watching it on television from his bunker: “Donald Trump is hosting the leaders of Azerbaijan and Armenia at the White House this Friday night for what he has called a historic peace summit.
” That agreement led to the TRIPP, the Trump Roadmap for International Peace and Prosperity. Yes… when I read this part of the script I went to Google to see if it was true or some joke by my screenwriters and yes… It’s true, that’s the name. But getting back to the topic, we are talking about a trade corridor that will connect Azerbaijan with its exclave of Nakhchivan through southern Armenia, without passing through Russian or Iranian territory.
Trump blessed it as if it were his personal Silk Road. Pashinyan bought it because it gives Armenia a strategic role as a transit country. And Aliyev accepted it because it is in his best interest for Pashinyan to remain in power. Yes, the same Aliyev who waged war against him twice, crossed his fingers hoping he would win the elections.
But that’s not all. In May, Pashinyan pulled a rabbit out of the hat: Yerevan hosted the European Political Community summit . It had never been held so far from the EU borders. It was a full-fledged declaration of intent. Fifty European leaders paraded through the Armenian capital.
Macron sat at the piano while Pashinyan played Aznavour’s La Bohème on the drums, which is probably the most absurd and beautiful image that European diplomacy has produced in this century. Zelensky hugged him. Canadian Carney had dinner with him. And Putin watched it all from Moscow without being able to do absolutely anything, which is basically the story of his life lately.
Trump was quick to endorse Pashinyan as his favorite candidate. He posted on Truth Social that “Nikol fully shares my vision of PEACE and PROSPERITY for Armenia” and that he had his “COMPLETE and TOTAL support.” For Trump, Pashinyan is the Caucasian version of what Orbán was in Europe: a useful ally. Except that Pashinyan is going in the opposite direction to Orbán.
Because Pashinyan can’t stand Putin: ” By extending restrictions on the export of Armenian products, Moscow is using economic relations as a weapon of political pressure,” declared the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen. Now then… More than one person might ask: Does this mean that Pashinyan is a hero like Zelensky? Well … if Russia declares war on him and proves to have the same guts, perhaps.
But for now, I’ll tell you that he’s no saint. Let’s not kid ourselves. There are organizations that accuse him of being ruthless with the opposition. Armenian freedom rankings are not exactly stellar. And Pashinyan had an awkward moment on the Yerevan metro when a refugee from Karabakh reproached him for abandoning them. She told him they had “a different map.
” Pashinyan tried to take it in stride, exploded, and then had to ask… Apologies. The video went viral, of course. But despite ALL these controversies, the central message of his campaign has been clear and direct: Civil Contract is the party of peace. The others are the parties of war. And in a country that lost TWO wars in three years… that argument carries much more weight than Putin’s threats.
Why? Well, we’re about to see. PUTIN LOSES PUNCH. Putin did EVERYTHING to try to make Pashinyan lose. An investigation by The Insider has identified the names, ranks, and destinations of Putin’s men in Armenia. Russia sent a delegation of spies that looks like the lineup of a Cold War Champions League team.
From the SVR, they sent resident Alexei Myshlyavkin, who poses as a commercial representative but has actually been running the network of agents in Armenia since 2020. From the FSB, they sent General Kivachuk, whose work includes not… Not only to spy on Pashinyan, but also to monitor the Russians who fled to Armenia after the 2022 mobilization and now criticize Putin from there.
From the GRU is Vyacheslav Proshkin, who officially works for Rosatom overseeing the Metsamor nuclear facility but is actually a military intelligence officer. And the entire operation is coordinated from Moscow by a Kremlin directorate created specifically for this purpose. At the helm is Vadim Titov, a former Rosatom official who already failed trying to help Orbán in Hungary.
The man has a record of defeats that would make Atlético de Madrid’s Champions League record pale in comparison. The head of SVR espionage in Armenia knows Pashinyan’s every move, whom Russian intelligence has given the operational codename Barba. Now then… The obvious question is: And who was Putin’s candidate? Samvel Karapetyan.
An Armenian billionaire who made his fortune in Russia with a real estate empire called the Tashir Group. We’re talking about a guy with a net worth of $4.1 billion , which is equivalent to half of Armenia’s budget. But the MOST IMPORTANT thing he has is a Russian passport. And when they issued his passport in Kaluga, in the “place of work” field it literally said “IC FSB.
” In other words, Putin’s candidate to govern Armenia has the FSB’s calling card stamped on his documents. You can’t get more subtle than that. In case anyone’s confused, it’s like having the FBI’s seal of approval. And what’s become of him? Well, Karapetyan is under house arrest, accused of inciting a coup. His plan was to win the elections, change the Constitution, and become prime minister, even though current law prohibits it because he has dual citizenship.
And Putin asked Pashinyan in person, IN FRONT OF THE On camera, Putin demanded that “all pro-Russian forces” be allowed to participate in the elections. Pashinyan responded, also on camera, that the Armenian Constitution does not allow a citizen with dual nationality to be prime minister. It was like watching a featherweight knock out Mike Tyson in the first round: ” Dear Nikola Vladimirovich, dear friends, we are very happy to see you in Moscow and thank you very much for accepting the invitation and coming.
” Many of you will think, well, Putin must have had an ace up his sleeve. And yes. But Putin’s Plan B wasn’t exactly groundbreaking either. It was Gagik Tsarukyan, leader of the Prosperous Armenia party, affiliated with United Russia. A man who was convicted in 1979 for robbery and gang rape. And Plan C was former President Kocharyan, whose approval rating plummeted from 21% in 2021 to 3%.
Three plans and none. It works. Even pro-Russian opposition figures downplay their ties with Moscow because they know it costs them votes. That’s the level of rejection. Armenian authorities, at the highest level, are saying that the country’s opposition is completely controlled and subordinated to Russia.
With that statement, Yerevan shows that it no longer shys away from confrontation with Moscow and openly says that the Kremlin is trying to provoke a change of power in Armenia. And I know what more than one person is wondering: Have n’t they tried to impose sanctions to pressure the Armenian economy? Well, yes… Russia has canceled imports of Armenian flowers, fruit, mineral water, brandy, and wine, citing phytosanitary problems… If “phytosanitary” is even a word.
As if Armenian flowers had suddenly developed a disease that just happens to coincide with the election campaign. Bilateral trade fell from $12 billion in From 2024 to 6.4 billion in 2025. Putin warned Pashinyan that being a member of the Eurasian Economic Union is incompatible with closer ties to the EU.
He threatened to raise gas prices and very subtly reminded him that there are 5,000 Russian soldiers on his territory. “At some point, a final decision will have to be made, and this will be done by referendum.” And what did Pashinyan reply? Well, he was a gentleman. He told him, listen, that he would combine the two agendas as long as possible. “And if one day it becomes impossible, we Armenians will make a final decision.
” Then he gathered about fifty European leaders in his country, organized a concert with Macron at the piano, and hugged Zelensky. I think the answer is more than clear without needing subtitles. Armenia will have to tread carefully. Because distancing itself from Russia never comes without a price. 25% of Armenian exports go to Russia. The gas comes from Russia. The nuclear fuel for Metsamor comes from Russia.
And there are 5,000 Russian soldiers at the Gyumri base who aren’t going to move just because Pashinyan won an election. Russia is backing opposition forces that want Armenia to reorient itself toward Moscow as its main security guarantor and question the current peace agreement. The pressure isn’t just political.
It includes influence operations to discredit Pashinyan and intensified economic measures. The smartest strategy for Pashinyan would be what analysts call “diversification without confrontation.” Explained in plain language: not to replace Russia with the West overnight, but to counter Russia by multiplying partners. India for weapons.
France for diplomacy. The US for the trade corridor. The EU for funds and reforms. And in the meantime, remain within the Union. Eurasian Economic Union until Putin deems it incompatible. But in the end, what happened in Armenia is the same as what happened in Moldova and Hungary. People don’t want an empire telling them what ‘s best for them. They want to decide for themselves.
Russia offers cheap gas… but negotiates with a gun to the table. Europe offers freedom, funds, and a vision for the future. And when people can choose, they choose the latter, AS IS NORMAL. And this connects with something happening within Russia itself. Because every time Putin loses an election in a neighboring country, the message gets back home.
The bloggers see it. The regional governors see it. The VCIOM polls register drops in support. And the systemic opposition, those cardboard parties that exist to give the illusion of democracy, is beginning to awaken. Not enough to unseat him, but enough to keep him worried. Because if Armenia… A country of 3 million inhabitants with 5,000 Russian soldiers on its territory can say no to Putin and get away with it.
What message does that send to the Kazakhs, the Kyrgyz, or the Georgians themselves? That’s why the European Union is making a move. Von der Leyen: Our new EU partnership mission will support you in countering these hybrid threats and disinformation because one thing is absolutely clear. The only legitimate source of power in this country is the Armenian people’s will.
Some say that Europe has learned from the Georgian lesson. They don’t want Armenia to end up like Georgia, where the oligarch Ivanishvili managed to steer the country in a pro-Russian direction from within the system. Pashinyan is the opportunity that Europe cannot afford to miss. And he certainly has the perfect opportunity to seize it.
I suspect he knows that Ukraine will finish off imperial Russia sooner than Russia will finish off democracies that aspire to live in peace. Pashinyan, with his boomerangs and viral videos, wants to prove it. And now it’s your turn. Do you think Pashinyan will be able to maintain the balance between Russia and Europe, or will he end up having to choose? Can Putin afford to lose Armenia after having lost Moldova, Hungary, Syria, and half the Sahel? And what will happen to the 5,000 Russian soldiers in Gyumri if Armenia continues to move closer to the West? You can leave your answer in the comments. As always, do
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QQ4 Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The friendship began on a live television program in November of 1986 in the 11 seconds after Bob Dylan called Keith Richards music derivative on camera. Keith Richard’s response to that assessment, one sentence said without anger, without performance, with the specific directness of a man who has nothing to prove and knows it made Bob Dylan laugh.
Then made Bob Dylan go quiet. then made Bob Dylan say two words that people who know Bob Dylan say he almost never said to anyone. This is the story of those 11 seconds and the 40 years that followed them. The program was a live music interview special broadcast on an American network on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The format was simple.
Two musicians, a host, an hour of conversation about music and the state of it. The producers had assembled the pairing of Bob Dylan and Keith Richards with the specific calculation of television producers who understand that two people with equally strong and potentially incompatible views about what music is and what it should do will produce better television than two people who agree about everything.
The calculation was correct, though not in the way the producers had anticipated. Bob Dylan was 45 years old in November of 1986. Bob Dylan had released Empire Burlesque the previous year and had been on the road for most of the intervening period as part of the True Confessions tour with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
Bob Dylan was in November of 1986 in one of the most prolific and restless phases of a career that had consisted almost entirely of prolific and restless phases. A career that had moved through folk, rock, country, gospel, and back again, that had been declared finished at least six times by the music press, and at each time continued with the serene indifference of a river to the opinions of people standing on its banks.
Bob Dylan had been redefining what music could be. Since 1962, Bob Dylan had invented and reinvented himself so many times that reinvention had become his defining characteristic, not in the superficial sense of a performer changing costumes, but in the deeper sense of a musician who had never allowed his work to settle into a form that could be anticipated or categorized from the outside.
Bob Dylan understood influence and originality and the relationship between them better than almost anyone alive in 1986. Bob Dylan had spent 24 years thinking carefully and specifically about where music came from and where music was going and what it meant that those two things were always in constant conversation with each other.
Keith Richards was 42 years old in November of 1986. Keith Richards had been playing guitar professionally since 1962. Keith Richards had built a career on a foundation of American blues and rhythm and blues. A foundation that Keith Richards had studied with the systematic devotion of someone who understood that the tradition he was building on was not incidental to the music he was making, but essential to it.
that you could not understand what Keith Richards did without understanding where Keith Richards had come from and what Keith Richards had been listening to since he was a teenager in Dartford with American Import Records and a secondhand guitar and no teacher except the recordings themselves. Keith Richards had never pretended otherwise. Keith Richards had in fact spent considerable energy across his career making the lineage explicit, naming the artists, citing the recordings, insisting on the acknowledgement of influence that the mainstream music
industry had a long history of suppressing or ignoring or crediting to the wrong people. If anything, Keith Richards was more transparent about his sources than most musicians of his generation. Keith Richards had always said openly that the Rolling Stones came directly from the blues, that Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson and the specific tradition of the Mississippi Delta were not background influences, but foundational ones.
The music Keith Richards made was in direct and sustained conversation with that tradition, something Keith Richards considered not a limitation, but a responsibility and a form of respect. The interview had been running for 8 minutes when the host asked Bob Dylan about the current state of rock and roll.
Bob Dylan answered with the density and the indirection that characterized Bob Dylan’s responses to direct questions, turning the question over, approaching it from an unexpected angle, finding his way to what he actually thought through a series of observations that moved like a river rather than a road. Bob Dylan was not a straightforward interview subject.
Bob Dylan had been asked about rock and roll in hundreds of interviews across 24 years and had developed the habit of treating the question as an invitation to think out loud rather than a request for a prepared position. The producer Gerald Sherman said afterward that in the first 8 minutes of the interview, he had been slightly anxious, not because anything was going wrong, but because nothing was going anywhere in particular yet.
The interview had the feeling of two conversations happening simultaneously. Bob Dylan’s internal one and the external one visible to the cameras. And Gerald Sherman was not certain in those first eight minutes that the two conversations would converge into something. Bob Dylan talked about influence. Bob Dylan talked about originality.
Bob Dylan talked about the difference between music that absorbed a tradition and transformed it and music that absorbed a tradition and reproduced it. And then Bob Dylan made his assessment. And then Bob Dylan said with the precision of a man making a musical assessment rather than a personal judgment that the Rolling Stones work, and Bob Dylan was specific, naming Keith Richards as the guitarist whose approach he was discussing was derivative in a way that Bob Dylan found limiting.
Bob Dylan said it without hostility. Bob Dylan said it as a technical observation about the relationship between source material and the work that came from it. Bob Dylan said that Keith Richards played the blues the way the blues had already been played, rather than using the blues as a starting point for something that had not yet been played.
Keith Richards had been listening to this with the specific attention Keith Richards gave to things being said about music by people who knew music. Keith Richards did not interrupt. Keith Richards did not shift in his chair or display any of the visible signals of a person preparing a defensive response. Keith Richards listened to Bob Dylan’s complete observation all the way to its conclusion without interrupting and without displaying any visible signal of preparing a response.
Then Keith Richards said one sentence. The sentence was not a rebuttal. The sentence did not defend Keith Richards music or argue for its originality or challenge Bob Dylan’s characterization of what the blues meant in the context of rock and roll. The sentence was something else entirely, something that required a specific kind of confidence to say.
The confidence of a person who has spent long enough thinking about the same things as the person they are talking to that they can locate the exact point where their thinking diverges and say something useful about that point rather than simply defending their own position. The sentence acknowledged everything Bob Dylan had said, the assessment, the distinction Bob Dylan was drawing, the specific musical concern underlying the observation, and then turned it 90°.
Keith Richards took Bob Dylan’s own framework, the one Bob Dylan had used to analyze Keith Richards relationship to the blues tradition, and applied it back to Bob Dylan’s work with the same precision Bob Dylan had used to apply it to Keith Richards. Spare aimed. The sentence asked Bob Dylan something about Bob Dylan’s own music, about the relationship between Bob Dylan’s sources and Bob Dylan’s output that Bob Dylan had not been asked on television before.
The sentence did not attack. The sentence illuminated. Bob Dylan laughed. The laugh was not the polite laugh of someone responding to a joke. The laugh was the involuntary laugh of someone who has been genuinely surprised. The specific kind of surprise that a person of exceptional intelligence experiences when someone else’s intelligence exceeds their expectations.
Bob Dylan laughed for 4 seconds. Then Bob Dylan stopped laughing. Then Bob Dylan was quiet for 3 seconds in the way that Bob Dylan was quiet when Bob Dylan was thinking rather than performing thought. Then Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” The producer in the booth, a man named Gerald Sherman, who had been working in television for 14 years, said afterward that in 14 years of live television production, he had never heard Bob Dylan say those two words in a public forum.
Gerald Sherman said he had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions and had observed Bob Dylan in numerous other contexts and that you’re right was not a phrase that Bob Dylan deployed easily or often because Bob Dylan had spent 24 years being right about music in ways that other people eventually caught up with. And the experience of being right ahead of everyone else does not generally produce a man who says you’re right readily when someone else makes a point.
The host of the program, a journalist named Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said afterward that the 11 seconds between Bob Dylan’s assessment and Bob Dylan saying, “You’re right,” were the most extraordinary 11 seconds of television she had been present for. Patricia Wells said that what she witnessed in those 11 seconds was not a debate or a confrontation or a celebrity exchange of competing opinions.
Patricia Wells said what she witnessed was one musician recognizing another musician as an equal, which was in the specific context of Bob Dylan in 1986, not something that happened in public very often. The interview continued for another 42 minutes after those 11 seconds. The conversation between Bob Dylan and Keith Richards in the remaining 42 minutes was described by everyone who watched it as fundamentally different from the first 8 minutes.
The host, Patricia Wells, who had been conducting music interviews for 12 years and understood the difference between the performance of conversation and actual conversation, said that at approximately the 9-minute mark, something shifted in the studio. That the formal interview, architecture dissolved, and what replaced it was something less structured and more genuine.
Bob Dylan and Keith Richards talked about influence and originality and the blues and what it meant to build on a tradition without being consumed by it. They talked about specific recordings and specific musicians with the specificity of two people who had spent their entire adult lives thinking about these things and rarely found another person who had thought about them with equivalent care.
They talked about where music came from and where music was going and whether those two questions were actually one question or two. Patricia Wells said afterward that she had asked approximately four questions in the remaining 42 minutes because Bob Dylan and Keith Richards did not require questions. They required only a room and a camera and the shared understanding that what they were saying together was worth recording carefully.
She said it was the best interview she had ever conducted and that she had conducted the smallest part of it. After the program, Bob Dylan and Keith Richards were in the corridor outside the studio when the host Patricia Wells passed them. Patricia Wells said she did not stop because she did not want to interrupt.
She observed them for approximately 30 seconds from a distance. She said they were talking with the ease of people who had known each other for years rather than people who had met for the first time 2 hours earlier. She said that something had shifted between them during the broadcast that the broadcast had made permanent rather than temporary.
She continued down the corridor and did not look back. She said in her account of that evening that she had decided in that moment not to interrupt the conversation because some conversations are more valuable than any question a journalist might ask and that the conversation she had observed for 30 seconds in the corridor outside the studio was one of them.
She had been a music journalist for 12 years. She recognized the difference. Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have maintained their friendship across four decades. They have appeared together at various events, most significantly at the concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995, where people who were present described them as inseparable for most of the evening, occupying the same corner of the backstage area and talking with the concentrated attention of people who only have a limited amount of time together and intend to use it
well. Bob Dylan has spoken about Keith Richards in interviews with the specific thoughtful care that Bob Dylan reserves for musicians whose work Bob Dylan considers genuinely important rather than merely culturally prominent. Keith Richards has spoken about Bob Dylan in similar terms with the specific respect of someone who recognizes in another person a commitment to music that goes deeper than career.
Neither Bob Dylan nor Keith Richards has made a public statement specifically about how the friendship began or about the November 1986 interview. Bob Dylan has not mentioned the 11 seconds. Keith Richards has not mentioned the sentence. The interview exists in the archive. The 11 seconds are there. The laugh is there. The two words are there.
What is also there for anyone who watches the interview from its beginning and pays attention to the shift that happens at the 9-minute mark is the specific moment when two people who thought they were appearing on a television program discovered they were actually talking to each other. What Keith Richards said in that one sentence has never been officially reported.
The people who were in the studio that evening, Gerald Sherman, Patricia Wells, the floor crew, the two camera operators, the makeup artist who was watching from the side of the set, have described the sentence in consistent terms. They have described its effect. They have described Bob Dylan’s laugh and Bob Dylan’s silence and Bob Dylan’s two words.
They have not repeated the sentence itself in the specific understanding that the sentence was said between two musicians on a television program and that its power resided in the specific context of that exchange and would not survive removal from it intact. What can be said is this. Keith Richards said something to Bob Dylan about Bob Dylan’s music that used Bob Dylan’s own observation about Keith Richards as its starting point and arrived somewhere that Bob Dylan had not anticipated.
Keith Richards turned Bob Dylan’s assessment 90° and showed Bob Dylan something about the music they had both spent their lives making that Bob Dylan recognized immediately as true. And Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” Two words said by Bob Dylan in public on live television in 1986 to Keith Richards in response to a single sentence Keith Richards had said about music.
Two words that Gerald Sherman, who had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions, said he had never heard Bob Dylan say in a public forum. Two words that Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said were the most significant two words she had heard in those 12 years. Not because of their content, but because of who said them and what it cost to say them and what it meant that Keith Richards had produced them in 11 seconds from a conversation that began with Bob Dylan calling Keith Richards’s music derivative. And Keith Richards and
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