Good evening. It has been three weeks since the protests by the National Coordinator of Education Workers began in Mexico City and other states. In the last few hours, the encampments in the historic center have been reinforced , where the annoyance of merchants and residents of the area has also grown.
This afternoon, 17 trucks carrying members of the Ayotsinapa rural teachers’ college were intercepted by authorities from the Secretariat of Citizen Security, the Ministry of the Interior, and the National Human Rights Commission at the tollbooth on the Mexico-Cuernavaca highway in Tlalpan. There, 59 homemade explosives were seized .
The students were then escorted by traffic police to the Reforma area where they held a press conference before returning to Iguala, as Marcos Silva and Carlos Moreno tell us. The historic center of Mexico City clings to what remains of normality, despite the fact that dissident teachers from various states of the country have set up an alternative city of tarpaulins and ropes in at least 18 streets of the main square for the past week.
I mean, they could be installed on that side so that they don’t affect us either. This Monday, the sit-in by the National Coordinator of Education Workers reinforced its presence. New residents arrived to occupy open spaces on the outskirts of the Zócalo, adding square meters to a protest that is far from over. Services can’t get through, we can’t get gas delivered, supplies and merchandise can’t get through, and there’s not much we can do.
Untie him, Leni, he’s coming undone, untie him. Teachers from Guerrero took over 5 de Febrero Street, expanding south of the Zócalo a camp that now has 1756 tents, according to city government figures. We also apologize to the public. We know that we’re not here every day and that it’s also tiring, but maybe this is bad anger, bad reasoning from the government, that’s why we’re here.
The Zócalo in Mexico City, the site of the main fan festival of the World Cup, is surrounded by a metal fence to prevent teachers from entering . To the south, Venustiano Carranza and Pino Suárez are the only roads where pedestrian and vehicular traffic is allowed . To the east, Corregidora and Moneda are closed, as are Justo Sierra and República de Argentina to the north.
And on the west side, Tacuba is open to pedestrians, but traffic on 5 de Mayo, the Madero corridor, and 16 de Septiembre Street is blocked by a double metal fence. Out on the clear path. This afternoon, for the fourth time in less than a week, workers and shopkeepers in the historic center blocked Eje Central and Madero, one of the busiest intersections in the city.
They demanded free transit, claiming that the situation in the Zócalo is suffocating their businesses, and threatened to close the entire historic center on Thursday if the barriers are not removed. Blockades to protest against the “We have no customers” policy. If there are no customers, there are no sales. We don’t sell anything.
Laente also blocked entrances to several media outlets on Monday, insisting on his demands. Furthermore, they clarified that there is no dialogue with the federal authority. And in response to the request from the Ministry of the Interior to dismantle the encampment three days before the start of the World Cup, the teachers said they were ready to extend the protest.
We come for the whole year, if possible. Later, President Claudia Shembam spoke about the mobilizations of teachers and other social organizations called prior to the opening of the World Cup. Let’s wait and see what happens in the coming days, today, tomorrow. There are groups that want to provoke us, and they are not necessarily teachers; what they are looking for is repression. I’m saying it clearly.
What they are trying to achieve is that before the World Cup opens, the international headline will be that the Mexican government is repressing teachers. That’s what they’re looking for. Well, they won’t have that, and at the same time we’re going to guarantee that the World Cup opening ceremony goes smoothly and peacefully.
June 10th is also coming up, which is also a special scenario for provocation, but we are not going to fall for provocations. Tonight, Tropical Storm Boris is slowly moving towards the coast of Guerrero in the Pacific. It is located 45 km southeast of Punta Maldonado with winds of 75 km/h and gusts of 95, a tropical storm.
The National Weather Service has readjusted the forecast and Boris is now expected to make landfall in the early hours of Tuesday. Cloud bands are causing rain along the Pacific coast, and Acapulco is under a maximum alert. A lot of water in that storm. Details with Nmas reporters. The ports along the Guerrero coast remain closed to navigation due to increased waves and the proximity of Tropical Storm Boris.
Red flags were placed on Acapulco beaches. The rains began at 5:30 a.m. this Monday. The suspension of classes will continue tomorrow. The sea is too rough. Yes, it’s complicated to be here right now. We ‘re all traumatized here, scared, just waiting to see what’s going to happen to us.
When Loti came, he destroyed everything. The alert extends to the coastal strip of Oaxaca. In Salina Cruz, Hatulco Bay, Puerto Ángel and Puerto Escondido, fishing was suspended, as well as tourist excursions. Please do not approach the beach, the water is too rough, so let’s try to avoid an accident. Water accumulated in the hallways of the IMS number two hospital in Salina Cruz .
The rivers are monitored due to the risk of flooding. More than 100 municipalities in Chiapas remain on alert. The defense implemented the DN3 plan in the preventive phase. On the beaches of Colima, monitored by the Navy, restaurant owners took precautions. We are putting up sandbags to protect the front. At the mouth of the Veracruz River, the rains have increased the level of the Jamapa and Cotaxtla rivers.
There were also impacts in Yautepec, Morelos. In Mexico City, rain and winds of more than 50 km/h caused trees to fall in several boroughs. In Hisquiluca, in the State of Mexico, the Sacamulpa River overflowed. From the bridge it rose about 1 meter, 1.20 meters or so. We ca n’t move it. In political news, Coahuila renewed its local congress yesterday, Sunday.
The PRI, as they say, took the whole car. He won all 16 electoral districts with more than double the votes obtained by the Morena PT coalition. The national president of Morena, Ariana Montiel, reported that her party filed a complaint against the PRI for the alleged purchase of votes. The PRI and Democratic Unity Alliance of Coahuila won all 16 districts with 55% of the vote, giving them an absolute majority in Congress.
Morena and PT filed a complaint with the State Electoral Institute. They claimed to have evidence of vote buying and coercion through digital platforms and QR codes with minimum payments of 500 euros per vote. But there were quite a few votes here, and we’ll be presenting them over the next few days.
How was this operation? Morena also denounced that there was harassment, detention and persecution of militants and legislators by the state police. The national leadership of the PRI responded, what Morena should do is have a little decency and shame. We beat them overwhelmingly here. There were also statements from the Federal Congress .
It appears to be a state-run election where the government becomes a political party and where there is no room for the opposition to compete fairly. a choice. I think Morena should reflect on why they were defeated, why they lost, why so many people went to show their rejection before looking for things that are false, right? The state government reported a peaceful day without major incidents and highlighted the unprecedented 51% voter turnout.
What won out most was love and affection for our land. Hatred, division, infighting, lies, and alliances with potential criminals were defeated. Electronic ballot boxes and early voting via the internet were used in this election day. Super practical. I wish they were like that. Once the results are made official , the PAN, the Green Party and Movimiento Ciudadano would lose their local registration for not obtaining at least 3% of the vote.
The New Ideas State Party, which participated for the first time, reached 5.8%. President Shemon referred to the complaints made by Morena regarding the alleged purchase of votes. You have to follow your procedure. Therein lies the legal procedure to reach, if necessary, the Federal Electoral Tribunal. Let’s go to Spain.
There, at least 130,000 people welcomed Pope Leo XIII on Saturday upon his arrival in the country, where he will stay until next Friday at the Royal Palace. In Madrid, he called for an end to polarization and for abandoning, he said, divisive narratives. as well as sterile simplifications. Yesterday, Sunday, the Pope officiated a mass attended by 1.
2 million people in the Plaza de Cibeles in the center of Madrid. Today, Monday, Leo X became the first pontiff to speak before parliament and met with victims of sexual abuse. Our colleague Valentina Las Raqui has all the details. In becoming the first pontiff to speak before the Spanish courts, Leo XIV asked Spain to remain faithful to its Christian roots and to place the human being with his inviolable dignity at the center of all political, economic and social activities , beginning with the defense of human life from conception to
natural death, which he said does not respond to a particular or confessional interest, but to a goal of civilization. Leo 14 also spoke about the migrant drama and said that no nation can solve this situation alone. The situation of migrants and refugees demands a response that looks at the people, addresses the causes that force them to leave and goes beyond the mere management of flows, offering safe and legal pathways, respectful reception and real possibilities for integration.
Referring to the conflicts that are bleeding the world, he stated, “Weapons can impose a temporary silence, but they can never build a genuine and lasting peace.” Thank you so much. [applause] After the speech in parliament received with an ovation of more than 7 minutes, [applause] the Pope held a meeting with the Spanish bishops whom he asked to address the issue of sexual abuse against minors by men of the church with listening, truth, justice, reparation and an increasingly determined commitment to prevention and the culture of care.
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit descend upon you. [ovation] In the afternoon, at the annunciation, Leo X held an hour-long meeting with six victims of abuse. The pontiff ended his third day at the Santiago Bernabéu stadium, where he held a meeting with the diocesan community. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs reported that Foreign Minister Roberto Velasco and Secretary of State Marco Rubio held a working call this afternoon in which they agreed to continue cooperation on priority issues on the bilateral agenda, including security,
migration, and trade. A few days ago, the Secretary of the Navy, Admiral Raimundo Pedro Morales Ángeles, was in Washington DC, where he held high-level meetings with officials from the Navy and Coast Guard of that country, in which they agreed to reactivate the binational aeronautical search and rescue exercises and where the operational capacity of the Mexican Navy was recognized.
President Donald Trump was booed tonight at Madison Square Garden in New York, where he attended Game 3 of the NBA Finals between the San Antonio Spurs and the New York Knicks. The reaction began when the president appeared on the screens at Madison Square Garden. He is the first sitting president to attend an NBA Finals game.
Trump told Axios today that he warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Etanjaho not to start a new war against Iran because he would be left alone. The World Cup will kick off next Thursday at noon. On Saturday, the nation’s capital set a new Guinness World Record for the largest wave outside a stadium with the preliminary participation of 36,000 people on Paseo de la Reforma.
This morning the federal government, the Mexican Football Federation and executives of professional clubs established a commitment to create football schools and promote youth academies, the training of new players. At noon, the president presented the national team with their flag at the high-performance center. Guillermo Choa, called up for his sixth World Cup, was in charge of receiving the patriotic miser.
I entrust to your patriotism this flag that symbolizes your independence, honor, institutions, our people and the integrity of your territory. They vow to honor and defend her with loyalty and constancy. Yes, I do. May their example inspire millions of Mexicans to believe in the strength of sport and the power of their dreams.
Congratulations! We wish you the greatest success. Long live the national team! Congratulations. Well, the Iranian national team is already training in our country after the United States denied them entry during the tournament where they will play their group stage matches. The Iranian team will have a same-day entry and exit permit for the matches they are playing in Los Angeles and Seattle.
Raimundo Pérez Arellano and Fernando Guillén were present to welcome the Persian team. How many times in your life do you get to see the national team, especially when they’ve traveled from the other side of the world? I’m crying now. I’m beyond excited, you know. Dozens of people were at the Tijuana airport early Sunday morning hoping to see the Iranian national team arrive, which landed in Mexican territory after a 26- hour flight and a stopover in Santiago de Compostela, Spain.
Welcome. The media reported that several players wore a badge commemorating the attack carried out by the United States and Israel on February 28 at a school in the Iranian city of MINAB that left 168 dead. Tijuana, a border city with California, will be the Iranian training camp for the World Cup. They arrived at the team hotel near Sholos Stadium in a bus escorted by the National Guard.
Some people also came there to welcome the so-called Timeli. I think it’s safer here than in the United States because there’s a high chance something could happen to them there. I think having the team in the United States could be dangerous for them. FIFA offered Iran the option of setting up its camp in Tijuana.
She was originally going to be in Tucson, Arizona, but visa delays changed her plans. Days before the opening, there are still 15 federation directors and members of the technical staff who have not obtained their visas to travel to the games in Los Angeles and Searol. Iran and Mexico will have an opportunity to get to know each other better.
Tijuana is a very advanced city, it is a very good city, it is the cultural center of Mexico on its borders . Since there are different types of cultures here, there is no xenophobia, there is no fear about migrants. Darquipur was born in Iran, is a businessman, and has lived in Tijuana for 8 years.
I have never been in a city or country in my life that has accepted me the way that Mexican culture has accepted me . And this is a culture very similar to Iranian culture. We are very similar countries, perhaps with different religions, but we are very similar countries. Tijuana, a city built by Mexican migrants and migrants from other countries, has among its inhabitants about 30 people originally from Iran, like Nayere, who has been living for two months in a shelter in the north of the city.
Tijuana is a super big city. There are many people from different countries and cultures, and it’s easier to find work. As with all concentrated elections, several fans hope to get lucky and see their team, like José Ignacio and his mother, who were looking for a photo and an autograph from the striker Star of Iran.
Well, I was looking for a signature. And what happened? Yes, it was possible. Yes, it was possible. We should also be proud that Tijuana can welcome any member from around the world and receive them with such joy. Of course . Well, starting tomorrow and until August 30th, the exhibition of the American photographer Annie Lebovitz will be presented at the National Museum of Anthropology.
Football 2026 includes iconic photographs taken for the 1986 World Cup, an installation spanning more than 50 years of its history, and a new series of images created for this World Cup featuring footballers from around the world, including Mexican national team players. The conversation can be found at nmas.com.
mx MX and also on our YouTube channel. And there was something really beautiful about that because you know not too many people go around and say please take off your shirt while we take this picture. you know, and I was a little embarrassed but you know, I mean, I was just so in, you know, anyway, so I had a crush on him.
I’ll be I followed him to Chicago. He was playing in Chicago cuz I I decided we needed a picture of someone holding the ball. You know there I I do want to say that what’s different about this this shoot from 86 of course is that um you know this is really about the the players and their passion and and their and their strengths and um you know these are they’re mixed in with portraits and also I I throughout my my work I’ve always been interested in in dance photography and and in and in movement. So I was really
wondering if that would be a good conversation, as I was saying, through nmas.com.mx, it’s worth it. In an instant, a boat carrying 800 kg of cocaine is seized off the coast of Guerrero, and protests grow against the construction of an ammonia plant in the port of Topolobampo in northern Sinaloa. New site nmas.com.mx.
Now everything is more. Now everything is easier. Faster, more useful. Now everything is more at nmas.com.mx. We continue to follow N Má’s social media in Seattle. One of the 52 mini soccer fields that the Sounders and Rain clubs gave to soccer fans will be a giant barge that will include a mega screen and other amenities.
The barge was rented from the Western Towboat company. ship transporter to Alaska. The final adaptations are already being made there before its inauguration. What we hope is that it will be a once-in-a- lifetime opportunity for people to be with their friends and family. The Drape Foundation, the charitable arm of the clubs, is preparing other surprises for Washington state in the context of the World Cup in the United States.
Off the coast of Sicily, Italy, a group of divers captured a great white shark on video in the Mediterranean. Volunteer technical diver Derek Rammer captured the adult great white shark during a mission with Ghost diving and Healthy Seas to investigate and remove abandoned fishing nets from a shipwreck in the Strait of Sicily.
The mission is part of the groups’ effort to remove these ghost nets that trap and kill marine animals. The video was shared on World Oceans Day. [snort] NASA astronaut Jessica Mayer, a member of SpaceX’s Crew 12 mission, shared a time-lapse video of the aurora australis as seen from the Dragon spacecraft.
The aurora borealis or northern lights appear in the northern hemisphere, while the aurora australis or southern lights appear in the southern hemisphere. Auroras occur near the poles because the Earth’s magnetic field channels charged particles from the sun to those regions where they collide with the atmosphere and create bright curtains of color.
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800 kg of cocaine were seized on a boat off the coast of Guerrero. There are five detainees. In the same state, this Sunday, federal forces had reported the seizure of 1.3 tons of cocaine in Tecpan de Galeana. The Mexican electric vehicle, or Line 1, was presented this Sunday. It will have a speed of 50 km per hour and will be recharged through a conventional domestic connection.
It is designed for six passengers and to transport a person in a wheelchair. It is expected to be on the market in the summer of 2027 with an approximate cost of 150,000 pesos. [snort] After almost 60 years of operations in the capital of Puebla, the American Stanley Black and Decker plant, located on the side of the Mexico Puebla highway, was permanently closed.
The company, which focused on the production of crowbars, hammers, and pliers, employed 498 workers and at least 100 administrative staff. The Puebla Labor Secretariat confirmed that all of them were paid in accordance with the law. This Sunday, a march by citizens and organizations against the construction of the ammonia plant in the port of Topolobampo, announced a few weeks ago, took place in Los Mochis, Sinaloa.
They warned that they will escalate their actions if the Gas y Petroquímica del Occidente company does not remove the machinery in the coming days. Gentlemen, hundreds of citizens, members of the Aquinó movement and indigenous Yoreme communities departed from the intersection of the centennial boulevard on the Los Mochis Topolovampo highway until reaching the facilities of the Western gas and petrochemical plant.
Some joined the Pacifica truck, others joined the vehicle caravan that traveled more than 20 km. Upon arriving in Topolobampo, the protesters removed the Mexican flag from a chemical reactor owned by the plant and condemned the project, which they say is a risk to the environment, communities, and the development of the region.
At the end of the march, they asserted that they would not allow the installation of the plant and demanded the removal of the machinery. They have one week to resolve this problem. If not, then they will have to face the consequences for the indigenous peoples. This protest adds to the series of mobilizations that have intensified in municipalities of the state such as Mazatlán and Culiacán, as well as last Thursday at the German embassy in Mexico City.
The Ministry of Environment and Natural Resources reported that the project remains in effect, conditioned on compliance with various environmental measures after conducting a consultation with indigenous communities in 2022 ordered by the Supreme Court of Justice of the Nation. In Peru, the leftist Roberto Sánchez is ahead of Keiko Fujimor in the second round of the presidential election in that country.
And the World Health Organization reduces the health risk of Ebola, except in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Thank you for continuing to follow us on N Má’s social media. Fog may contain live and active bacteria. According to a study by Arizona State University in the United States . A team of researchers studied smog air samples for more than 2 years to analyze the organisms that can be found floating in its microdroplets.
The results published in the journal Bio indicate that bacteria manage to have a temporary habitat in fog droplets, and up to 10 million bacteria can be found in a small sample of fog water. The famous Cuban almendrones, the classic American cars that still function as shared taxis and symbolize the ingenuity and resilience of the Cuban people, are suffering from the fuel crisis in that country.
The iconic vintage cars, which are big gas guzzlers, are becoming increasingly inactive. since getting gasoline is very difficult. These cars are now passed down from generation to generation. For example, I had one in my time that belonged to my great-grandfather. The fuel crisis has plagued the island since January, and authorities blame the US energy blockade, which limits drivers to having only 20 liters of gasoline when it is available.
The animals at Brookfield Zoo in Illinois are preparing for the FIFA World Cup with their own opening event. Since last week, the zoo has begun offering football-themed activities to a variety of its animals, from red warthogs and American bison to gravity zebras. Activities with a ball stimulate the animals through physical and mental activity and exploration, encouraging natural behaviors at the zoo located 26 km west of Chicago.
Remember to subscribe, comment, and share. We continue with Enrique Acevedo. In the second round of the Peruvian election, leftist candidate Roberto Sánchez holds a narrow lead with 50.10% of the votes over Eco Fujimori, who has 49.89%. The count is already 95% complete.
Electoral authorities warn that the results are not final. The WHO lowered the health risk level of the Ebola epidemic outbreak for the African continent from high to low. This excludes the Democratic Republic of Congo, as well as Uganda and neighboring countries. So far, 534 cases and 93 deaths have been confirmed.
The search continues in the Philippines for dozens of missing people after a magnitude 7.8 earthquake struck the island of Mindanao, in the south of the country. [shout] So far, 35 people have died . [scream] More than 200 injuries are reported . Authorities detected multiple damages to infrastructure. The tsunami warning for the area has been lifted.
And to say goodbye to the planet, Alberto Tinoco Guadarrama and Benito Sánchez Rojo present us with the main natural reserve of the Bald Eagle, the emblematic bird of the United States located in Chilcat, Alaska. GNP Seguros presents Living is incredible for the planet. The Chilcat River, at this time of year, is no longer teeming with live salmon.
Chum’s big run in late autumn has run its course. The fish that were not eaten swam up the tributaries, spawned in the gravel, and died, leaving their bodies as fertilizer for the ecosystem or as frozen carrion on the banks. What the eagles are looking for now are the stragglers, salmon that for some biological reason have delayed their ascent, or more often fragments of carrion that the ice has not yet completely buried, or the remains of a mammal that was prey to a larger predator.
Survival at this time of year is an exercise in infinite patience and fierce competition. Right where the river makes a bend, there is a huge adult eagle watching over the remains of its prey. Suddenly, a glinasora lunges forward with an awkward but aggressive flapping of its wings. The strongest one defends the remains of its prey and responds with pecks in the air and a higher-pitched squeal.
The two collide in a confusion of feathers and claws. It all ends with each eagle returning to their respective perches with ruffled feathers and one of them with wounded pride. When you observe these birds of prey, you know they are survivors of a lineage that was nearly extinct. The fact that they are here today, pecking at a fish in the freezing solitude of February, is a form of victory and wildness.
Living is amazing because of the planet. GNP Seguros presented on behalf of the great team that makes it possible on Punto Noticiero de Nmas. Thank you for your attention and trust. The information continues through nmasforo and nmas.com.mx. Next up, third grade in sports with Denis Merker.
Don’t miss it. I am Enrique Acevedo. I wish you a good night and good luck.
QQ4 Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The friendship began on a live television program in November of 1986 in the 11 seconds after Bob Dylan called Keith Richards music derivative on camera. Keith Richard’s response to that assessment, one sentence said without anger, without performance, with the specific directness of a man who has nothing to prove and knows it made Bob Dylan laugh.
Then made Bob Dylan go quiet. then made Bob Dylan say two words that people who know Bob Dylan say he almost never said to anyone. This is the story of those 11 seconds and the 40 years that followed them. The program was a live music interview special broadcast on an American network on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The format was simple.
Two musicians, a host, an hour of conversation about music and the state of it. The producers had assembled the pairing of Bob Dylan and Keith Richards with the specific calculation of television producers who understand that two people with equally strong and potentially incompatible views about what music is and what it should do will produce better television than two people who agree about everything.
The calculation was correct, though not in the way the producers had anticipated. Bob Dylan was 45 years old in November of 1986. Bob Dylan had released Empire Burlesque the previous year and had been on the road for most of the intervening period as part of the True Confessions tour with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
Bob Dylan was in November of 1986 in one of the most prolific and restless phases of a career that had consisted almost entirely of prolific and restless phases. A career that had moved through folk, rock, country, gospel, and back again, that had been declared finished at least six times by the music press, and at each time continued with the serene indifference of a river to the opinions of people standing on its banks.
Bob Dylan had been redefining what music could be. Since 1962, Bob Dylan had invented and reinvented himself so many times that reinvention had become his defining characteristic, not in the superficial sense of a performer changing costumes, but in the deeper sense of a musician who had never allowed his work to settle into a form that could be anticipated or categorized from the outside.
Bob Dylan understood influence and originality and the relationship between them better than almost anyone alive in 1986. Bob Dylan had spent 24 years thinking carefully and specifically about where music came from and where music was going and what it meant that those two things were always in constant conversation with each other.
Keith Richards was 42 years old in November of 1986. Keith Richards had been playing guitar professionally since 1962. Keith Richards had built a career on a foundation of American blues and rhythm and blues. A foundation that Keith Richards had studied with the systematic devotion of someone who understood that the tradition he was building on was not incidental to the music he was making, but essential to it.
that you could not understand what Keith Richards did without understanding where Keith Richards had come from and what Keith Richards had been listening to since he was a teenager in Dartford with American Import Records and a secondhand guitar and no teacher except the recordings themselves. Keith Richards had never pretended otherwise. Keith Richards had in fact spent considerable energy across his career making the lineage explicit, naming the artists, citing the recordings, insisting on the acknowledgement of influence that the mainstream music
industry had a long history of suppressing or ignoring or crediting to the wrong people. If anything, Keith Richards was more transparent about his sources than most musicians of his generation. Keith Richards had always said openly that the Rolling Stones came directly from the blues, that Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson and the specific tradition of the Mississippi Delta were not background influences, but foundational ones.
The music Keith Richards made was in direct and sustained conversation with that tradition, something Keith Richards considered not a limitation, but a responsibility and a form of respect. The interview had been running for 8 minutes when the host asked Bob Dylan about the current state of rock and roll.
Bob Dylan answered with the density and the indirection that characterized Bob Dylan’s responses to direct questions, turning the question over, approaching it from an unexpected angle, finding his way to what he actually thought through a series of observations that moved like a river rather than a road. Bob Dylan was not a straightforward interview subject.
Bob Dylan had been asked about rock and roll in hundreds of interviews across 24 years and had developed the habit of treating the question as an invitation to think out loud rather than a request for a prepared position. The producer Gerald Sherman said afterward that in the first 8 minutes of the interview, he had been slightly anxious, not because anything was going wrong, but because nothing was going anywhere in particular yet.
The interview had the feeling of two conversations happening simultaneously. Bob Dylan’s internal one and the external one visible to the cameras. And Gerald Sherman was not certain in those first eight minutes that the two conversations would converge into something. Bob Dylan talked about influence. Bob Dylan talked about originality.
Bob Dylan talked about the difference between music that absorbed a tradition and transformed it and music that absorbed a tradition and reproduced it. And then Bob Dylan made his assessment. And then Bob Dylan said with the precision of a man making a musical assessment rather than a personal judgment that the Rolling Stones work, and Bob Dylan was specific, naming Keith Richards as the guitarist whose approach he was discussing was derivative in a way that Bob Dylan found limiting.
Bob Dylan said it without hostility. Bob Dylan said it as a technical observation about the relationship between source material and the work that came from it. Bob Dylan said that Keith Richards played the blues the way the blues had already been played, rather than using the blues as a starting point for something that had not yet been played.
Keith Richards had been listening to this with the specific attention Keith Richards gave to things being said about music by people who knew music. Keith Richards did not interrupt. Keith Richards did not shift in his chair or display any of the visible signals of a person preparing a defensive response. Keith Richards listened to Bob Dylan’s complete observation all the way to its conclusion without interrupting and without displaying any visible signal of preparing a response.
Then Keith Richards said one sentence. The sentence was not a rebuttal. The sentence did not defend Keith Richards music or argue for its originality or challenge Bob Dylan’s characterization of what the blues meant in the context of rock and roll. The sentence was something else entirely, something that required a specific kind of confidence to say.
The confidence of a person who has spent long enough thinking about the same things as the person they are talking to that they can locate the exact point where their thinking diverges and say something useful about that point rather than simply defending their own position. The sentence acknowledged everything Bob Dylan had said, the assessment, the distinction Bob Dylan was drawing, the specific musical concern underlying the observation, and then turned it 90°.
Keith Richards took Bob Dylan’s own framework, the one Bob Dylan had used to analyze Keith Richards relationship to the blues tradition, and applied it back to Bob Dylan’s work with the same precision Bob Dylan had used to apply it to Keith Richards. Spare aimed. The sentence asked Bob Dylan something about Bob Dylan’s own music, about the relationship between Bob Dylan’s sources and Bob Dylan’s output that Bob Dylan had not been asked on television before.
The sentence did not attack. The sentence illuminated. Bob Dylan laughed. The laugh was not the polite laugh of someone responding to a joke. The laugh was the involuntary laugh of someone who has been genuinely surprised. The specific kind of surprise that a person of exceptional intelligence experiences when someone else’s intelligence exceeds their expectations.
Bob Dylan laughed for 4 seconds. Then Bob Dylan stopped laughing. Then Bob Dylan was quiet for 3 seconds in the way that Bob Dylan was quiet when Bob Dylan was thinking rather than performing thought. Then Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” The producer in the booth, a man named Gerald Sherman, who had been working in television for 14 years, said afterward that in 14 years of live television production, he had never heard Bob Dylan say those two words in a public forum.
Gerald Sherman said he had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions and had observed Bob Dylan in numerous other contexts and that you’re right was not a phrase that Bob Dylan deployed easily or often because Bob Dylan had spent 24 years being right about music in ways that other people eventually caught up with. And the experience of being right ahead of everyone else does not generally produce a man who says you’re right readily when someone else makes a point.
The host of the program, a journalist named Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said afterward that the 11 seconds between Bob Dylan’s assessment and Bob Dylan saying, “You’re right,” were the most extraordinary 11 seconds of television she had been present for. Patricia Wells said that what she witnessed in those 11 seconds was not a debate or a confrontation or a celebrity exchange of competing opinions.
Patricia Wells said what she witnessed was one musician recognizing another musician as an equal, which was in the specific context of Bob Dylan in 1986, not something that happened in public very often. The interview continued for another 42 minutes after those 11 seconds. The conversation between Bob Dylan and Keith Richards in the remaining 42 minutes was described by everyone who watched it as fundamentally different from the first 8 minutes.
The host, Patricia Wells, who had been conducting music interviews for 12 years and understood the difference between the performance of conversation and actual conversation, said that at approximately the 9-minute mark, something shifted in the studio. That the formal interview, architecture dissolved, and what replaced it was something less structured and more genuine.
Bob Dylan and Keith Richards talked about influence and originality and the blues and what it meant to build on a tradition without being consumed by it. They talked about specific recordings and specific musicians with the specificity of two people who had spent their entire adult lives thinking about these things and rarely found another person who had thought about them with equivalent care.
They talked about where music came from and where music was going and whether those two questions were actually one question or two. Patricia Wells said afterward that she had asked approximately four questions in the remaining 42 minutes because Bob Dylan and Keith Richards did not require questions. They required only a room and a camera and the shared understanding that what they were saying together was worth recording carefully.
She said it was the best interview she had ever conducted and that she had conducted the smallest part of it. After the program, Bob Dylan and Keith Richards were in the corridor outside the studio when the host Patricia Wells passed them. Patricia Wells said she did not stop because she did not want to interrupt.
She observed them for approximately 30 seconds from a distance. She said they were talking with the ease of people who had known each other for years rather than people who had met for the first time 2 hours earlier. She said that something had shifted between them during the broadcast that the broadcast had made permanent rather than temporary.
She continued down the corridor and did not look back. She said in her account of that evening that she had decided in that moment not to interrupt the conversation because some conversations are more valuable than any question a journalist might ask and that the conversation she had observed for 30 seconds in the corridor outside the studio was one of them.
She had been a music journalist for 12 years. She recognized the difference. Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have maintained their friendship across four decades. They have appeared together at various events, most significantly at the concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995, where people who were present described them as inseparable for most of the evening, occupying the same corner of the backstage area and talking with the concentrated attention of people who only have a limited amount of time together and intend to use it
well. Bob Dylan has spoken about Keith Richards in interviews with the specific thoughtful care that Bob Dylan reserves for musicians whose work Bob Dylan considers genuinely important rather than merely culturally prominent. Keith Richards has spoken about Bob Dylan in similar terms with the specific respect of someone who recognizes in another person a commitment to music that goes deeper than career.
Neither Bob Dylan nor Keith Richards has made a public statement specifically about how the friendship began or about the November 1986 interview. Bob Dylan has not mentioned the 11 seconds. Keith Richards has not mentioned the sentence. The interview exists in the archive. The 11 seconds are there. The laugh is there. The two words are there.
What is also there for anyone who watches the interview from its beginning and pays attention to the shift that happens at the 9-minute mark is the specific moment when two people who thought they were appearing on a television program discovered they were actually talking to each other. What Keith Richards said in that one sentence has never been officially reported.
The people who were in the studio that evening, Gerald Sherman, Patricia Wells, the floor crew, the two camera operators, the makeup artist who was watching from the side of the set, have described the sentence in consistent terms. They have described its effect. They have described Bob Dylan’s laugh and Bob Dylan’s silence and Bob Dylan’s two words.
They have not repeated the sentence itself in the specific understanding that the sentence was said between two musicians on a television program and that its power resided in the specific context of that exchange and would not survive removal from it intact. What can be said is this. Keith Richards said something to Bob Dylan about Bob Dylan’s music that used Bob Dylan’s own observation about Keith Richards as its starting point and arrived somewhere that Bob Dylan had not anticipated.
Keith Richards turned Bob Dylan’s assessment 90° and showed Bob Dylan something about the music they had both spent their lives making that Bob Dylan recognized immediately as true. And Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” Two words said by Bob Dylan in public on live television in 1986 to Keith Richards in response to a single sentence Keith Richards had said about music.
Two words that Gerald Sherman, who had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions, said he had never heard Bob Dylan say in a public forum. Two words that Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said were the most significant two words she had heard in those 12 years. Not because of their content, but because of who said them and what it cost to say them and what it meant that Keith Richards had produced them in 11 seconds from a conversation that began with Bob Dylan calling Keith Richards’s music derivative. And Keith Richards and
Bob Dylan have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The sentence did its work in 11 seconds on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The work has been ongoing ever since. If this story moved you, subscribe and leave a comment below. Have you ever said something to someone that turned a potential disagreement into an unexpected and lasting connection? Tell us about it in the comments below.
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