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strength resilience and stability I declare before you all that my whole life whether it be long or short shall be devoted to your service and to the service of our great Imperial family to which we all belong Queen Elizabeth II reigned for over 70 years she saw world wars presidential assassinations and revolutions nevertheless the royal family remains a solid example of gleaming British Excellence until the crown slips there was real Fury in the palace the Ken was very upset that she wasn’t told about this because royalty
isn’t always a fairy tale particularly the issue of members of the royal family having conversations about the color of Archie’s skin Scandal adultery and tragedy take a look behind the facade and uncover the truth from the Mon’s Darkest Days learn of their Tales of romance and heartbreak death and Duty and understand what really goes on behind those Palace walls this is the crown in ] crisis in 1936 the reigning King George V died and his eldest son Edward ascended to
the throne as King Edward VII however before the year had concluded he had abdicated the throne to marry his true love a twice divorced American woman Wallace Simpson the abdication meant that Elizabeth and Margaret’s father Albert reluctantly had to take the crown and become the next king next his majesty is to be presented with a holy bible to enable him to receive it the Lord great Chamberlain draws off the jeweled glove after which the Bible can be
delivered from the condonation chair his majesty goes to the chair of State for his enonation never before has a newly crowned King been able to talk to all his peoples in their own homes on the day of his coronation and the Queen and I will always
keep in our hearts the inspiration of this day thus royalty endures in the greatest empire ever known to Elizabeth the 36-year-old Queen to the Queen Mother Mary and to her second son now King go the Empire’s love and devotion the family were catapulted into the spotlight and Elizabeth’s father was now the center of the world stage becoming King greatly strained his life something his family noticed daily princess Elizabeth became air presumptive a title that impacted her childhood greatly Albert was extremely
close to his daughters and adored them calling Elizabeth his pride and Margaret his Joy Elizabeth was just 11 years old at the time but George immediately recognized that his new role meant that his daughter would one day succeed him as Queen princess Elizabeth was very close to her father always was I mean he absolutely adored Margot Princess Margaret and Margaret made him laugh but he was very proud of Elizabeth and he saw that sense of Duty he spotted it very early on and he knew that she would be just the sort of queen that the
country needed from her first appearance then after King Edward abdicated his new Throne the Yorks became King and Queen Elizabeth at 10 was now air presumptive reviewing the Girl Guides at Windsor Castle the little princesses Elizabeth 12 and Margaret 8 assumed new importance in 1940 Hitler began to bomb England thousands of children were evacuated among them Elizabeth and Margaret now 14 and 10 who were sent up the temps to a safer Haven he didn’t actually spend a huge amount of his life with his daughters
but whenever he could he did and he taught her to shoot he took her uh duck flighting he he did kind of boyish things with her because you know he had two daughters and he was just so proud of her so I think they were especially for the time they were a very close family we may not think that now viewing them from our era but then they were a close family the king asked his eldest daughter to write an account of his coronation so that she could prepare for her own Elizabeth did as she was told and noted that her father looked very
beautiful on the day of the coronation and she saw a haze of Wonder through Westminster Abbey as her father was crowned King George V 6 even began assigning Royal responsibilities to his eldest daughter as a demonstration of trust when she turned 18 George V 6 named her a counselor of state which allowed her to represent the country when her father was away it’s a spring morning is out of the Kingdom she will in fact begin to assume all the duties and tasks that fall to royalty but even as the camera gets
ready to go riding with the grown-up princess and her younger sister doesn’t does your mind starting D in from their ride the king meeting them has a bantering word with Jo is 18 years old on the 21st of April tragedy was going to strike on the 6th of February 1952 when King George V 6 passed away in his sleep at the Sandringham estate only 7 years after the war had drawn to a close his early death changed the course
of history and influenced what was to come when Princess Elizabeth received the news of the death of her father she went into shock as you would I mean she was shocked by his death because she thought he was getting better everybody within the family thought the King was getting better he was at Sandringham he’d been out shooting he’d had a wonderful day he was with friends and as Princess Margaret said in much much later in an interview he died just as he was getting well but of course he wasn’t really getting well they thought he was
so it was a huge shock to her and it it meant the end of her life as she knew it she had two little children uh a naval husband uh and they just started out really on their married life on tour at the time Elizabeth had to cancel the rest of the trip after Prince philli her husband gave her the news that her father had passed away and she was now proclaimed Queen historians say she was remarkably stoic upon hearing the news of her father’s passing behind the Gates of Sandringham from the Parish Church the time major
McDonald sounded faintly in the distance as the coffin was put onto the the gun carriage and the impressively simple corage began the slow procession to the station men reverently transferred the coffin into the funeral coach of the train thousands oblivious of rain and chilling wind their presence was the tribute they could pay to him of whom no more on Earth we sing God the dead Monarch returned White Hall Once a kingly way where stood the Royal Palace he came into power when the crown was in a crisis and steered the country
through a turbulent period period when the world was in the midst of change through the chaos of War and the founding of the Commonwealth of Nations King George became a figure of Hope and stability for people worldwide he instilled this sense of Duty into his family country and of course his daughter upon her return to the UK during an accession council at St James’s Palace Elizabeth promised to follow her father’s example she declared I shall always work to advance the happiness and prosperity of my people Elizabeth Bose lion was 26 when
she gave birth to Elizabeth in 1926 4 years later in 1930 her second daughter Margaret was born It is believed that she was pretty indulgent as a mother as well as being protective and not wanting to overburden Elizabeth and her sister with learning she often said she just wished her daughters would have pleasant memories her life changed drastically in 1952 when the king died before the queen his daughter the widowed Queen his wife and Princess Margaret the great ordeal Begins the Imperial Crown with its 3,000
jewels glint in the fitful light as George V 6 returns to his Sorrowing capital and with it on the oak coffin is the white wreath of his widow 15 years ago he walked here behind his dead father with no thought of crown or Throne a quiet shy man thankful that greatness was not to be thrust upon him but fate ruled otherwise Elizabeth Margaret and the Queen Mother bonded very closely United by shock and grief this was a time of great difficulty the Queen Mother lost her husband and
her role too her daughter princess Elizabeth took her rightful place on the throne Elizabeth Bose Lion now Queen Mother did everything in her power to ensure that her daughter’s transition to the throne was smooth although supportive of her daughter the Queen Mother later withdrew from the public eye it was decided that she should move to clarence’s house so the new monarch and her consort could take their place at the palace I feel that we know a little less about the relationship with the queen mother but she doted on her mother
because in later years she’s always what would mommy think what would mommy think we can’t do that at upset Mommy so she was very in awe of her mother I think the queen mother was in her 50s when she became what is known as a dowager Queen slowly she was pushed out of the picture she came to Royal Lodge first in 1931 and for a happy few years it was home for her and for her husband together they remodeled the house and grounds which had fallen into disrepair the Warriors saw the Parkland around dug up for growing vegetables to
help the war effort like Gardens all over London after King George died Royal Lodge became hers alone it was Central to her life as Queen Mother the chapel became the most popular place of worship for the royal family and though the formal announcements would come from clarence’s house her London home often the heart and center of her life was at Royal Lodge for her 90th birthday the Queen Mother invited the it cameras to The Gardens of Royal Lodge it was a marvelous early summer’s day she showed us round of an old friend Lord chartress
who promis and former private secretary to the president you know it’s really wild garden you know and this is the garden as you planned it well nature took a great hold I think you know now there are all sorts of stories told about how guests which came to the house were actually issued with a spade and a lot of charm from you and we told to get on with it um kind people did do a little digging and snap snipping and all that sort of thing guess they were all very helpful um it it’s great fun to do you know it was a bit of a a wild place I
say and bonf masses of f that’s a great great great job Jo I think the king made this Garden you see rarely I mean he did all the work and now we have other friends that’s righto disr injuries and illnesses surrounded the queen mother’s later life only hours later she braved the freezing weather to visit the royal stud on the sandream estate where she fell and fractured her left hip she was taken to King Edward iith Hospital in London well wishers arrived with fls this morning after hearing news of the
successful hip replacement operation last night but complication patients can follow this type of surgery the reality is that the queen mother will be at risk of having a thrombosis a blood clot traveling to the lung and a fatal pulmonary embolism or even a heart attack the complications following hip surgery actually account for as many as one in four deaths she’s obviously what we would call a biological Survivor she is a brave lady and she’s done extraordinarily well and she’s got a certain tenacity a certain amount of
fight about her which is one of the factors I think which has endeared her to the country’s heart on the 1st of August 2001 the queen mother had a blood transfusion for anemia after suffering from mild heat exhaustion however she was well enough to make her traditional appearance outside clarence’s house 3 days later to celebrate her 101st birthday the Queen Mother joined by her family to celebrate her one 101st birthday on the 4th of August just 3 days before she’d had a blood transfusion in hospital after suffering
from anemia as however she was determined not to let age diminish her ability to carry out engagements and thrill the crowds the advancing years insisting that she could walk unaided to her seat to witness a page great grandmother who throughout her long life remained at the heart of the nation’s affections later that year aged 101 she fractured her pelvis in a fall throughout 2002 the queen mother went through a series of accidents that were proof of her frail State she is a wonderful Shepherd I hope you’ll all be very happy in there and I
would like also to give my very best wishes to the ship’s company and those that reside who helped so much and now Captain sson splice away in [Laughter] brace right stand she fell and cut her arm in her sitting room at Sandringham house an ambulance and Doctor were called and the wound was dressed she was still determined to attend Margaret’s funeral at St George’s Chapel Windsor Castle 2 days later on the Friday of that week her health began to deteriorate at
precipitously during her last weeks after retreating to Royal Lodge for the final time a final farewell to a princess who was today remembered as a mother a daughter and a sister the Queen wiping a tear as Princess Margaret’s coffin left Windsor for the crematorium it was her own wish that even her children Lord Linley and Lady Sarah chatau shouldn’t follow a private family funeral was what she had requested Prince Charles who spoke this week of his darling Aunt following as the Princess Royal led the
mourners hidden behind tinted windows the queen mother came by people carrier increasingly frail she hasn’t been seen in public since November on the 30th of March 2002 she died in her sleep at the Royal Lodge Windsor Great Park with her surviving daughter Queen Elizabeth II at her bedside tonight the queen and Duke of Edinburgh LED three generations of the royal family into Windsor’s Royal Chapel for a service in memory of the Queen Mother her coffin will rest inside the chapel for 3 days before being taken to
St James’s Palace ever since my beloved mother died over a week ago I have been deeply moved by the outpouring of affection which has accompanied her death my family and I always knew what she meant for the people of this country and the special place she occupied in the hearts of so many here in the Commonwealth and in other parts of the world but the extent of the tribute that huge numbers of you have paid my mother in the last few days has been overwhelming I have drawn great comfort from so many individual acts of kindness and
respect over the years I have met many people who have had to cope with family loss sometimes in the most tragic of circumstances so I count myself fortunate that my mother was blessed with a long and happy life she had an infectious zest for living and this remained with her until the very end I know too that her faith was always a great strength to her at the ceremony tomorrow I hope that Sadness Will blend with a wider sense of Thanksgiving not just for her life but for the times in which she lived a century for this country and the
Commonwealth not without its trials and Sorrows but also one of extraordinary progress full of examples of courage and Service as well as fun and laughter this is what my mother would have understood because it was the warmth and affection of people everywhere which inspired her resolve dedication and enthusiasm for life I thank you for the support you are giving me and my family as we come to terms with her death and the void she has left in our midst I thank you also from my heart for the love you gave her
during her life and the honor you now give her in death may God bless you all Princess Margaret was born in 1930 being Elizabeth’s only sibling despite having an extremely close Bond during their childhood knowing that only one of them could be Queen took a toll on Margaret she often struggled to find a purpose to her role envying Elizabeth’s exceptional dedication and attitude to the inherit duties Elizabeth was often referred to
as the unlikely Queen since her Uncle Edward VII was still young and likely to marry and have children of his own who would preced Elizabeth in the line of succession but when her grandfather died in 1936 she became second in line to the throne the dynamic between the sisters began to change as the Elizabeth was being prepared for a life serving her country Margaret began to feel overlooked giving herself the nickname second best Rose she began to receive a separate education compared to her sister who is now required to
participate in more public engagements and coaching for her pending role as the next monarch now second best to her sister the new heir to the throne Margaret had to make her Mark in the world less conventionally naturally she became more outgoing a regular partygoer she had a strong affinity for smoking and drinking unfortunately her enjoyment of an occasional cigarette became a severe addiction and she became known for smoking up to 60 strong cigarettes a day sadly Princess Margaret passed away on the 9th of February
2002 she died peacefully in her sleep after being hospitalized for another stroke the previous day she was taken from her home at Kensington Palace to hospital with her children by her side the queen made her announcement immediately informing the world of her sister’s death you know on one level I mean she was she was a great character you know she really really was um I sometimes wish it it had been possible for the public to have known generally for the public to have known how thoughtful and kind and loving she could be among the discs she
chose to take with her onto her desert island was a rendition of rural britania because to her being patriotic was important and like her mother on the anniversary of VE day she remembered the lyric floral tributes for Princess Margaret at Kensington Palace this morning time for quiet reflection it’s here that Prin princess Margaret’s coffin is resting among those paying their respects a group of brownies at St James’s Palace The Changing of the Guard a black armband was worn in memory of the Queen’s sister there’s been a steady trickle of
people coming here to St James’s Palace today to sign the book of condolence but inevitably comparisons are being made with a public reaction to Princess Diana’s death when thousands of people were queuing up here to pay their respects Prince Charles was avoiding the cameras today leaving Sandringham where along with the Queen Mother a private service was held for Princess Margaret Elizabeth had a complicated relationship with her sister they often disagreed and had very different ideas about what the monarchy needed to look like and how
they should behave but every step of the way Princess Margaret remained fiercely loyal to the queen their relationship remained extremely close until the day she died quite unusually for the queen on the day of Margaret funeral she would be seen to wipe a tear from her eye it is not often the queen would lose her composure and it indicated the level of love and affection she felt for her sister throughout the years there was always a constant in Elizabeth’s life Always by her side Prince Phillip was the man that offered her unconditional
support and devotion through hardship and change Elizabeth and Phillip were inseparable for 73 years their enduring love and unbreakable Bond have been a staple of modern history Prince Phillip was born in 1952 on the island of coru Greece into the Greek and danish royal families his family was exiled from the country when he was only 8 months old after being educated in France Germany and the United Kingdom Philip joined the Royal Navy when he turned 18 Elizabeth and Phillip first met when she
was 8 years old and he was 13 it was during Philip’s cousin’s wedding princess Marina of Greece and Denmark and Elizabeth’s Uncle Prince George Duke of Kent it wasn’t until 5 years later when Elizabeth was 13 and Philip was 18 that the two met again at the Royal Naval College in Dartmouth It is believed that at that moment Elizabeth fell in love with the one who would later become her husband Elizabeth and Phillip were married on the 20th of November 1947 at Westminster ABY they received 2,500 wedding gifts from around the
world when they started pursuing their romantic relationship Philip greatly supported Elizabeth as she often called him her strength and stay he was the only one that could give the queen his honest opinions and they would often discuss her speeches beforehand there is no doubt that the unbreakable Bond and closeness that she shared with her husband and the love and support they have afforded one another has carried them together and made the toils of life that much more worthwhile unfortunately on the 9th of April 2021
Prince Phillip the Queen’s dear husband of 73 years died he had always been her most excellent support indeed so his passing was a terrible loss to the queen due to the covid-19 restrictions only 30 people were allowed to attend his funeral I uh I particularly wanted to say that my father I suppose the last uh 70 years has given the most remarkable devoted Service uh to the Queen to my family and uh to the country and also to the whole of the common and as you can imagine my family and I missed my father enormously he was a a much loved and
appreciated figure and uh apart from anything else I can imagine and we’re so deeply touched by the number of other people here and elsewhere around the world in the Commonwealth who also I think share our loss and our sorrow and uh my my dear Papa Was a was a very special person who I think above all else would have been Amazed by the reaction and the touching things that have been said about him and from that point of view we are my family deeply grateful for all that it will sustain us in this particular loss and at this
particular particularly sad time of
the fession CER I’m sure that losing Phillip
was absolutely dreadful for her again she’s veryy steric and she would have she it’s not to say it was unexpected he you know he he he’d been on a downward path for a few months so she knew that he wasn’t going to last forever she also knew he didn’t want to live to be a 100 and she knew how stubborn he was um so I think she probably felt uh a bit of relief for him because he was no longer in pain and you know he’d gone very peacefully and I think that was very important to her and also the queen is extremely religious
and her faith would have held her together I don’t think there would have been an outpouring of tears I think she just sort of withdrew into herself which is what people of her kind of caliber do she wouldn’t have shown any great emotion even to her children I wouldn’t imagine but it would all be inside of her Queen Elizabeth the second the longest reigning monarch in British history has led a life of commitment Supreme dedication and Duty towards her
people her life was heavily influenced by the critical people that Sur surrounded her but also by their deaths and the toll these would take on the course of history good evening Buckingham Palace has announced the death of Queen Elizabeth II the longest reigning monarch in British history her Reign lasted for 70 years from post-war austerity and the end of Empire through the expansion of the Commonwealth the nation Bid Farewell to Britain’s longest reigning monarch on behalf of all my family I can
only offer the most sincere and heartfelt thanks for your condolences and support they mean more to me than I can ever possibly Express and to my darling mamama as you begin your last great journey to join my dear late Papa I want simply to say this thank you when it was fun finally announced that the queen had died there was an extraordinary outpouring of grief amongst uh the nation because you know the majority of of the queen subjects had never known um another Monarch you’re clearly very very sad um tell me how you’re feeling right now at
this news just just touch with the old situation you know you don’t think you will be but she’s been part of my life forever it was kind of the end of an ear it wasn’t just her death it was the end of an ER it was end of the Elizabethan age as we know it for most of her life first as a princess then as Queen Buckingham Palace was her London home today with military Precision Britain’s longest serving Monarch left the palace for the last time the Queen’s coffin draped in the Royal Stand and with the Imperial State
Crown on top was taken slowly through the palace Gates aboard a gun Carriage behind walked the king his sister and brothers and behind them the Dukes of Cambridge and Sussex 25 years ago the two brothers had their childhood defined by the image of them walking behind their mother’s coffin today they honored their grandmother in the same way the the
after a state funeral she was laid to rest alongside her husband Prince Phillip her parents George I 6 and Elizabeth and her beloved sister Margaret the lives but also the deaths of these remarkable members of the monarchy have shaped the course of history as we know it their choices and destinies influence the world we live in today that deaths marked a time that the crown was in crisis
QQ4 Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The friendship began on a live television program in November of 1986 in the 11 seconds after Bob Dylan called Keith Richards music derivative on camera. Keith Richard’s response to that assessment, one sentence said without anger, without performance, with the specific directness of a man who has nothing to prove and knows it made Bob Dylan laugh.
Then made Bob Dylan go quiet. then made Bob Dylan say two words that people who know Bob Dylan say he almost never said to anyone. This is the story of those 11 seconds and the 40 years that followed them. The program was a live music interview special broadcast on an American network on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The format was simple.
Two musicians, a host, an hour of conversation about music and the state of it. The producers had assembled the pairing of Bob Dylan and Keith Richards with the specific calculation of television producers who understand that two people with equally strong and potentially incompatible views about what music is and what it should do will produce better television than two people who agree about everything.
The calculation was correct, though not in the way the producers had anticipated. Bob Dylan was 45 years old in November of 1986. Bob Dylan had released Empire Burlesque the previous year and had been on the road for most of the intervening period as part of the True Confessions tour with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
Bob Dylan was in November of 1986 in one of the most prolific and restless phases of a career that had consisted almost entirely of prolific and restless phases. A career that had moved through folk, rock, country, gospel, and back again, that had been declared finished at least six times by the music press, and at each time continued with the serene indifference of a river to the opinions of people standing on its banks.
Bob Dylan had been redefining what music could be. Since 1962, Bob Dylan had invented and reinvented himself so many times that reinvention had become his defining characteristic, not in the superficial sense of a performer changing costumes, but in the deeper sense of a musician who had never allowed his work to settle into a form that could be anticipated or categorized from the outside.
Bob Dylan understood influence and originality and the relationship between them better than almost anyone alive in 1986. Bob Dylan had spent 24 years thinking carefully and specifically about where music came from and where music was going and what it meant that those two things were always in constant conversation with each other.
Keith Richards was 42 years old in November of 1986. Keith Richards had been playing guitar professionally since 1962. Keith Richards had built a career on a foundation of American blues and rhythm and blues. A foundation that Keith Richards had studied with the systematic devotion of someone who understood that the tradition he was building on was not incidental to the music he was making, but essential to it.
that you could not understand what Keith Richards did without understanding where Keith Richards had come from and what Keith Richards had been listening to since he was a teenager in Dartford with American Import Records and a secondhand guitar and no teacher except the recordings themselves. Keith Richards had never pretended otherwise. Keith Richards had in fact spent considerable energy across his career making the lineage explicit, naming the artists, citing the recordings, insisting on the acknowledgement of influence that the mainstream music
industry had a long history of suppressing or ignoring or crediting to the wrong people. If anything, Keith Richards was more transparent about his sources than most musicians of his generation. Keith Richards had always said openly that the Rolling Stones came directly from the blues, that Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson and the specific tradition of the Mississippi Delta were not background influences, but foundational ones.
The music Keith Richards made was in direct and sustained conversation with that tradition, something Keith Richards considered not a limitation, but a responsibility and a form of respect. The interview had been running for 8 minutes when the host asked Bob Dylan about the current state of rock and roll.
Bob Dylan answered with the density and the indirection that characterized Bob Dylan’s responses to direct questions, turning the question over, approaching it from an unexpected angle, finding his way to what he actually thought through a series of observations that moved like a river rather than a road. Bob Dylan was not a straightforward interview subject.
Bob Dylan had been asked about rock and roll in hundreds of interviews across 24 years and had developed the habit of treating the question as an invitation to think out loud rather than a request for a prepared position. The producer Gerald Sherman said afterward that in the first 8 minutes of the interview, he had been slightly anxious, not because anything was going wrong, but because nothing was going anywhere in particular yet.
The interview had the feeling of two conversations happening simultaneously. Bob Dylan’s internal one and the external one visible to the cameras. And Gerald Sherman was not certain in those first eight minutes that the two conversations would converge into something. Bob Dylan talked about influence. Bob Dylan talked about originality.
Bob Dylan talked about the difference between music that absorbed a tradition and transformed it and music that absorbed a tradition and reproduced it. And then Bob Dylan made his assessment. And then Bob Dylan said with the precision of a man making a musical assessment rather than a personal judgment that the Rolling Stones work, and Bob Dylan was specific, naming Keith Richards as the guitarist whose approach he was discussing was derivative in a way that Bob Dylan found limiting.
Bob Dylan said it without hostility. Bob Dylan said it as a technical observation about the relationship between source material and the work that came from it. Bob Dylan said that Keith Richards played the blues the way the blues had already been played, rather than using the blues as a starting point for something that had not yet been played.
Keith Richards had been listening to this with the specific attention Keith Richards gave to things being said about music by people who knew music. Keith Richards did not interrupt. Keith Richards did not shift in his chair or display any of the visible signals of a person preparing a defensive response. Keith Richards listened to Bob Dylan’s complete observation all the way to its conclusion without interrupting and without displaying any visible signal of preparing a response.
Then Keith Richards said one sentence. The sentence was not a rebuttal. The sentence did not defend Keith Richards music or argue for its originality or challenge Bob Dylan’s characterization of what the blues meant in the context of rock and roll. The sentence was something else entirely, something that required a specific kind of confidence to say.
The confidence of a person who has spent long enough thinking about the same things as the person they are talking to that they can locate the exact point where their thinking diverges and say something useful about that point rather than simply defending their own position. The sentence acknowledged everything Bob Dylan had said, the assessment, the distinction Bob Dylan was drawing, the specific musical concern underlying the observation, and then turned it 90°.
Keith Richards took Bob Dylan’s own framework, the one Bob Dylan had used to analyze Keith Richards relationship to the blues tradition, and applied it back to Bob Dylan’s work with the same precision Bob Dylan had used to apply it to Keith Richards. Spare aimed. The sentence asked Bob Dylan something about Bob Dylan’s own music, about the relationship between Bob Dylan’s sources and Bob Dylan’s output that Bob Dylan had not been asked on television before.
The sentence did not attack. The sentence illuminated. Bob Dylan laughed. The laugh was not the polite laugh of someone responding to a joke. The laugh was the involuntary laugh of someone who has been genuinely surprised. The specific kind of surprise that a person of exceptional intelligence experiences when someone else’s intelligence exceeds their expectations.
Bob Dylan laughed for 4 seconds. Then Bob Dylan stopped laughing. Then Bob Dylan was quiet for 3 seconds in the way that Bob Dylan was quiet when Bob Dylan was thinking rather than performing thought. Then Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” The producer in the booth, a man named Gerald Sherman, who had been working in television for 14 years, said afterward that in 14 years of live television production, he had never heard Bob Dylan say those two words in a public forum.
Gerald Sherman said he had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions and had observed Bob Dylan in numerous other contexts and that you’re right was not a phrase that Bob Dylan deployed easily or often because Bob Dylan had spent 24 years being right about music in ways that other people eventually caught up with. And the experience of being right ahead of everyone else does not generally produce a man who says you’re right readily when someone else makes a point.
The host of the program, a journalist named Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said afterward that the 11 seconds between Bob Dylan’s assessment and Bob Dylan saying, “You’re right,” were the most extraordinary 11 seconds of television she had been present for. Patricia Wells said that what she witnessed in those 11 seconds was not a debate or a confrontation or a celebrity exchange of competing opinions.
Patricia Wells said what she witnessed was one musician recognizing another musician as an equal, which was in the specific context of Bob Dylan in 1986, not something that happened in public very often. The interview continued for another 42 minutes after those 11 seconds. The conversation between Bob Dylan and Keith Richards in the remaining 42 minutes was described by everyone who watched it as fundamentally different from the first 8 minutes.
The host, Patricia Wells, who had been conducting music interviews for 12 years and understood the difference between the performance of conversation and actual conversation, said that at approximately the 9-minute mark, something shifted in the studio. That the formal interview, architecture dissolved, and what replaced it was something less structured and more genuine.
Bob Dylan and Keith Richards talked about influence and originality and the blues and what it meant to build on a tradition without being consumed by it. They talked about specific recordings and specific musicians with the specificity of two people who had spent their entire adult lives thinking about these things and rarely found another person who had thought about them with equivalent care.
They talked about where music came from and where music was going and whether those two questions were actually one question or two. Patricia Wells said afterward that she had asked approximately four questions in the remaining 42 minutes because Bob Dylan and Keith Richards did not require questions. They required only a room and a camera and the shared understanding that what they were saying together was worth recording carefully.
She said it was the best interview she had ever conducted and that she had conducted the smallest part of it. After the program, Bob Dylan and Keith Richards were in the corridor outside the studio when the host Patricia Wells passed them. Patricia Wells said she did not stop because she did not want to interrupt.
She observed them for approximately 30 seconds from a distance. She said they were talking with the ease of people who had known each other for years rather than people who had met for the first time 2 hours earlier. She said that something had shifted between them during the broadcast that the broadcast had made permanent rather than temporary.
She continued down the corridor and did not look back. She said in her account of that evening that she had decided in that moment not to interrupt the conversation because some conversations are more valuable than any question a journalist might ask and that the conversation she had observed for 30 seconds in the corridor outside the studio was one of them.
She had been a music journalist for 12 years. She recognized the difference. Bob Dylan and Keith Richards have maintained their friendship across four decades. They have appeared together at various events, most significantly at the concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995, where people who were present described them as inseparable for most of the evening, occupying the same corner of the backstage area and talking with the concentrated attention of people who only have a limited amount of time together and intend to use it
well. Bob Dylan has spoken about Keith Richards in interviews with the specific thoughtful care that Bob Dylan reserves for musicians whose work Bob Dylan considers genuinely important rather than merely culturally prominent. Keith Richards has spoken about Bob Dylan in similar terms with the specific respect of someone who recognizes in another person a commitment to music that goes deeper than career.
Neither Bob Dylan nor Keith Richards has made a public statement specifically about how the friendship began or about the November 1986 interview. Bob Dylan has not mentioned the 11 seconds. Keith Richards has not mentioned the sentence. The interview exists in the archive. The 11 seconds are there. The laugh is there. The two words are there.
What is also there for anyone who watches the interview from its beginning and pays attention to the shift that happens at the 9-minute mark is the specific moment when two people who thought they were appearing on a television program discovered they were actually talking to each other. What Keith Richards said in that one sentence has never been officially reported.
The people who were in the studio that evening, Gerald Sherman, Patricia Wells, the floor crew, the two camera operators, the makeup artist who was watching from the side of the set, have described the sentence in consistent terms. They have described its effect. They have described Bob Dylan’s laugh and Bob Dylan’s silence and Bob Dylan’s two words.
They have not repeated the sentence itself in the specific understanding that the sentence was said between two musicians on a television program and that its power resided in the specific context of that exchange and would not survive removal from it intact. What can be said is this. Keith Richards said something to Bob Dylan about Bob Dylan’s music that used Bob Dylan’s own observation about Keith Richards as its starting point and arrived somewhere that Bob Dylan had not anticipated.
Keith Richards turned Bob Dylan’s assessment 90° and showed Bob Dylan something about the music they had both spent their lives making that Bob Dylan recognized immediately as true. And Bob Dylan said, “You’re right.” Two words said by Bob Dylan in public on live television in 1986 to Keith Richards in response to a single sentence Keith Richards had said about music.
Two words that Gerald Sherman, who had worked with Bob Dylan on two previous occasions, said he had never heard Bob Dylan say in a public forum. Two words that Patricia Wells, who had been interviewing musicians for 12 years, said were the most significant two words she had heard in those 12 years. Not because of their content, but because of who said them and what it cost to say them and what it meant that Keith Richards had produced them in 11 seconds from a conversation that began with Bob Dylan calling Keith Richards’s music derivative. And Keith Richards and
Bob Dylan have been close friends for nearly 40 years. The sentence did its work in 11 seconds on the evening of November 3rd, 1986. The work has been ongoing ever since. If this story moved you, subscribe and leave a comment below. Have you ever said something to someone that turned a potential disagreement into an unexpected and lasting connection? Tell us about it in the comments below.
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